elkaholic

u answered your own question - if we had the facts to prove them wrong they'd be unable to implement or change hunts / programs whenever they want most changes are from bogus harvest numbers- easy when you make up #'s to suit your agenda all this asking imput is just a show and we all know it ( proper procedure for open conversation on paper) most know -- like stated above - very very very rare if not impossible to be able to get G&F commission to change anything once its been proposed example--- the commission was told by "biologist" elk ratio for unit 10 cow to bull out of projected ratios biologist suggested more bull tags- now consider they've had 1600 cow rifle tags for the last 10 yrs plus - one might think the best thing would be to reduce cow tags- nope they made a new muzzleloader bull hunt in 10 - 75 tags expected harvest is usually about 35 % so they adopted the suggestion with the thinking that killing a projected 26 additional bulls in unit 10 would be the best way to balance the cow to bull ratio. sorry to say -- written comments or going to these meeting usually produces little if no changes to proposed guidelines

basically ---they are wording it to eliminate any hunts at anytime they decide harvest #'s change archers better read and understand the implications of restrictions in #11

can someone else please check to see if the wording actually eliminates dec. whitetail hunts--

put yur request in the classified section a possibility some only look at that for guns to buy!?

BIGLAKEJAKE or the rest of you if you don't like the rules - Go play somewhere else whining about your inability to express your profanity is pitifull where's that bar of soap when ya need it wanta be quides come and go- especially losers

I'd never leave any animal lay dressed-Period - this is my thoughts this is if you got no help and cant move it and know its over an hr to get help of some kind. 1- bare minimum gutted -split ribs and propped open - try to roll onto branches limbs too get off ground - move into shade -if possible -takes 10-15 minutes -- you got about 2 hrs max- 2- minimum - gut- cut off all legs (hide on) hand'm in shade - make bone cut on big rear legs to split the meat open - helps to cool down faster - split ribs prop open -with ribs down backstrap off ground - place in shade - takes about 30 minutes-- then you got about 2 1/2 hrs that's why takin what you need to process an animal on the spot is so important ***** field pack with bare necessities knifes -sharpener-1-2 ponchos ( to lay clean meat on) game bags of some kind- always a 8-10 ft piece of rope/cord to help tie a leg off or tie pieces to pack or pack frame ( extra _extra )- batteries for headlamps -after dark nothin sucks more than no light to see***** go into the field expecting to tag something -take what YOU think you need to get job done on the spot where the animal falls

not sure what the blk spot is -- bear -- heck of a canyon no matter where it is

nothing beats a freah walleye fish fry - in my opinion - be worth the trip lures or trolling worms

2 weeks before season in"my" preferred unit - up all night every night spotlightin meadows and little clearings that usually hold cows and listening find elk and then find the travel routes to bedding areas -setup plans to interecept - getting in very early- wait for other hunters to push them to me!

RCBS Reloading Set for the beginner - a gift or replacements - was going to reload but changed mind-actually forgot it was stored! 1- 1986 ? - its stamped 86on top --- RCBS RS- 3 Press - never been used 3 - (2)Die Sets - 308 - 243 - 30-06 -- all new never used 1- scale 5.0.5 NIB never used 1- case lube set -NIB never used 1- reloading block 1- primer tray - 1- powder funnel - new never used 1- primer tool new never used 3- shell holders possibly used 1- deburring tool- possibly used 1- redding powder trickler # 5 NIB never used Valued well over $300 asking $175 - shipping is extra. will add a USED 3 die set Set of RCBS 500 Linebaugh 1.6" group K use shell holder #5 (included) for $50 like a special order at MIDWAY $300 APPROX. will sell separate FOR $75 *maybe some minor blemishes from storage* Gary 602-993-2657 live NPhx

all kidding aside Marriage isn't for everyone--finding the perfect partner seems impossible- some get it right the first time - some after several attempts - some never will if you know this retreat is right for you -- Go - I can only hope you find what ever your looking for and be happy the rest of your lives together I guess I got lucky the first time over 40 yrs married to the "love of my life"- nothing speaks louder than doing something you really don't want to do like now cleaning/ scrubbing a bathroom from top to bottom- it has to be done - I know it --so I do it

be surprised ebay they buy them for just parts- not working-- I stated they quit takin pics- easy money instead of trash

the one thing about unit 8 is the main roads are rarely closed. they are good all weather road. pray for minimal snow fall before January -- lol I've been on the loop around Williams in over 2 ft of snow and never had any problems other than meeting someone coming the other direction one good thing about snow easy to see the travel route of the migrating elk and pick a spot -- REMEMBER a lot of elk will travel the same routes/trails

most these fires are burning thru the old burns with all the grasses fueling it- sometimes wonder why they don't thin out a lotofthat dead timber from the earlier fires yes pray everyone stays safe and hopefully not a lot of damages this fire season - its just starting

they should come to AZ and try the same study -- dollar to a donut it'd show different results

pretty much dec coues or leftovers

Only one I can remember quiting-terminated -fired - I had an early archery elk tag- I was told at the last minute I couldn't go. I went anyway-lol guy called several times wondering if I'd gotten my elk and when was I returning- I never returned any of them - I tagged out first day of my 2 week hunting time and just enjoyed camp and helping others went back to same job 3 weeks after I was told I wouldn't have a job if I went hunting.

call them up -- yours may be a reset option some other cameras have it

McReynolds farms they have great pigs all sizes- even roast it for you - they've done a lot catering for local hunting banquets - best BBQ sauce ever!! Be my #1 choice - grade A Arizona raised hogs do not know why link not working call 602-269-0157 google Pig Roast McReynolds Farms or McReynolds Farm Catering 36st below southern discounts if you pick up at factory 202 W.Buckeye road 480-427-0285

where is it leaking

I'm sure I'd gladly go along for a lion -- got a few lion calls

well if u want to do both try Alamo area there are feral pigs and elk

1- Silver Anniversary Edition - # 38 of 1500 hardcover 2- Field Edition 1995 Askin $20 for the pair $ 5 to ship or you can pick up both books are in great condition minor wrinkles on the cover edges of silver edition other possible blemishes from shelf life -- Gary 602-993-2657

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If I'm was you I'd be checking areas close to home- huge muledeer in S/w Arizona - kofas etc. ask the farmers in the areas in and around Yuma - go ask if you a can check the field edges. find the water tanks in the deserts down ther e I know Cibola area as good deer numbers do some home work close to home - get to know unit 43 - go to G&f website under where to hunt look up 43 most info is spot on for information on where to start if your lookin for meat why drive all, the way across the state