JLW

about time you posted this 1 up! LOL! that is pretty sweet! James

Yeah, sorry there but it is only aimed at big game animals. James

http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/arizona.pdf

I agree. I mean weren't they having trouble funding state parks not too long ago?? They had to get a bill passed so the state wouldn't sweep the funds that are allocated for the parks. Isn't there fees for all the state parks??? won't be long before they charge us to USE the forest because they can't keep up with the costs. No plan No way! Just my opinion. James

I've called in several does while calling coyotes. The sound they make is very soft. I called 1 in to about 10yds and I could barely here her, granted it was windy. Once while scouting I stopped to make some coyote sets and hit the fawn distress and 4 bucks that were bedded down across the little canyon I was in they all stood up to see what all the racket was. I called in a coues doe a couple seasons back using the primos can call. I talked to a nice guy last January and he told me about the coues buck his son in law shot the weekend before and he rattled him in to about 15yds. I'm reading "DEER TALK" by Don Laubach and Mark Henkel. Gives a lot of info on his research with his call "The Deer Stopper" I usually spot n stalk during the rut hunt but I might try spot n call this year. Might take a lot of trial and error but it's all good in the woods! James

Are they saying that they shot a cow elk and inadvertently hit the spike with the same round or shot the spike and the cow separate? I know the penalties can be harsh but not a way to teach the younguns. I saw a quick news clip on Friday. This is not going to turn out well for the adults. James http://azgfd.net/artman/publish/NewsMedia/Elk-poaching-being-investigated-in-northern-Arizona.shtml

not only that it is manufactured for cattle but put out (intended) for cattle. I'm sure it'll be up to the discretion of the warden rather than make it black and white! It's probably that way because someone will say I didn't put that out the rancher must have. This is gonna get interesting. No one will post up pics anymore.. (1 of my favorite parts of this site) so water softner/pool salt is probably a no no very grey for sure! remember to put small piles in lots of places so they all don't congregate in 1 area James

just keep an eye on the weather in the northern states... when they get a couple cold snaps they'll be coming. looks like it should be starting. James

saw a news clip of a jaguar caught on camera by an az hunter or they confirmed it was a jag and not a ocelot....you may not be the only 1 gettin this awesome critter on camera? thanks for sharing! James

that is sweet lookin! James

they'll be sorry when the coyotes eat the rest of the antelope! look into a wood cutting permit...... maybe able to get away with that??? congrats to you and your grandson! Sorry they have made it into a joke for you! James

NICE! GOOD LUCK! James

yeah that's bs... it's how you handle them and fully cook them. crock pot till the meat falls off the bones! my kids thought it was beef stew! LOL! Chicken fried rabbit backstrap is awesome! James

+1 we had some odd shootings in the archery hunt... was weird... went on for about 45min - an hour then I heard like a johnny stewart jack rabbit call for a little while. It was like they brought all the ammo they could afford. still had a bear and turkey show up so suck it who ever you were! 1 time when we were callin coyotes one 1 of them lames drove by and saw our vehicle with huntin stickers and they honked the horn nonstop for about a half mile! lucky for them this is America.......... some times you just have to laugh. I doubt they would have the gull to shoot up a trailer though... but you never know. If things were stolen then tweeker if just shot up then leaning toward some drunk yayhoo! James

dang!!!!!!! you otta be able to retire and just shed hunt all year! LOL! Nice job!! James

imagine that... more grey areas????????????? James

I'm sure if you reached across and slapped the you know what out of them and made the walk home they wouldn't shoot from a vehicle! James

I usually only wear orange when quail hunting with coues finder. LOL! but aways keep some in my pack. James

checked the cams on saturday........ 1 stink pig and a bunch of cows. so took the long way back to the truck and found this chalked up 3x3. not expert on scoring but ran a tape anyhow and it may go 80 - 85" has split eyeguard on both sides. James

yeah, I thought this would have a bigger discussion.... I'm still trying to figure this out. James

I don't know the area well but I know there are access issues in some places. if no one helps you out I always look at the g&f starting points and that usually gets me going. they give a ton of starting points for this unit. I've copied and pasted it for you... hope it helps. James Mule Deer Overview: Mule deer can be found in most areas throughout the unit, although densities vary significantly. The highest deer densities are associated with the Weaver, Date Creek and McCloud Mountains. The mountainous areas in unit 20C are covered with dense stands of shrub live oak and wait-a-minute bush with intermixed areas of more open desert grassland. Deer utilize both areas but hunters should focus their attention on the more open areas to increase their chances of glassing and successfully stalking deer. The unit also contains lower Mohave and Sonoran Desert. Hunters familiar with these areas are sometimes rewarded with taking larger more mature bucks than most anywhere else in the unit. While larger more mature bucks may be located in the desert areas deer densities here are the lowest in the unit. Quality deer habitat is also found in the more open areas around Hillside and Kirkland. Here, deer tend to remain near hiding cover associated with drainages leading off large rolling hills or mesas. Access can be a problem and frustrating to hunters unfamiliar with the unit. Much of the area around the Hassayampa River and Kirkland is private property. Hunters are reminded to honor landowner requests where posted and to secure verbal or written permission to access private property. Arizona Game and Fish Department personnel have worked with many of the ranches to obtain access for hunters on private land. Problems such as vandalism, littering, harassment of livestock, and cross-country travel may cause these landowners to revoke this privilege and lock their gates. Hunters who observe these types of actions and report them to an officer help ensure private lands remain open in the future. A land status map is recommended and can by found at most map stores. Generally the western half of the unit has fewer access problems than the eastern half. Areas: Eastern Weaver Mountains (those areas east of HW 89) are accessed via the Wagoner/Crown King Road (HW 89 MP 289) then by taking the Zonia Mine Rd at the intersection where the pavement begins. Unless hunters have secured permission from private landowners there is no more access to 20C off the Wagoner/Crown King Road (paved road). Hunter using the Zonia Mine Rd need to turn right on the Whitehead Ranch Rd (unmarked) approximately ½ mile before reaching a locked gate accessing the mine. The Whitehead Ranch Rd twists its way to Sourgrass Flats where the thick chaparral vegetation opens up to grassland. Further past Sourgrass Flat, the terrain become steeper and the vegetation become thick again. The road continues for several miles before ending at another locked gate at private property. The Whitehead Ranch Road has few side roads and hunters will have to walk and glass from hilltops to locate wildlife. Hunters may also access the Weaver Mountain via the Stanton-Octave Road (HW 89 MP 269). This road runs along the base of the mountain and accesses BLM and State Trust Land. Hunters can take the Mina Rd north from Stanton and loop back to Yarnell and HW 89. Hunters will want to keep an eye out for a few illusive whitetail deer reported to inhabit the area. Past Stanton, there are numerous roads that allow access to most of the desert flats and ridges all the way to Wickenburg to the south and the Hassayampa River to the east. Hunters are reminded the Hassayampa River Wilderness Area is closed to motor vehicles and to respect private property restrictions. The Western Weaver Mountains (those areas west of HW 89) are accessed via the Sorrells Ranch Rd (HW 89 MP 283). This is a popular area and during some hunts becomes congested with hunters. Hunters can also access the Weaver Mountains via the Date Creek Rd (HW 89 MP 269). The Date Creek Rd runs 20 miles from HW 89 to Hillside. There are several side roads leading off the Date Creek Road accessing State Trust Land closer to Hillside. At mile post 13 a two track road will cross the railroad tracks and eventually take hunters along the base of Ritter Peak towards Kirkland. At mile post 15 a two track road will take hunters to the west towards Waterman Creek. At mile post 18 another two track road to the west will take hunters to Carter Flat and beyond. It is recommended to use quads/side-by-sides or modified 4WD vehicles to access the further reaches of these side roads as they eventually become narrow, rocky and overgrown with brush. The Date Creek Rd is another popular area for hunters and may become congested during some hunts. The mesa and rolling hills area east of Hillside can be accessed via the rail road track (ATSF) right of way. This road eventually dead ends just past Grandview. Do not attempt to exit through Kirkland as the access is blocked by private property. Do not use the road after heavy rains as the road becomes impassable. Hunters may also enter off HW 96 a few miles northeast (towards Kirkland) of Hillside. Arizona Game and Fish has a sign-in box and metal gate on a two track road. The Mohave/Sonoran Desert interface associated with the lower elevations around the Santa Maria River can be accessed via the Santa Maria River Rd (HW 96 MP 11 & HW 93 MP 161). This road runs parallel to the river from HW 96 to HW 93. There are several roads that lead to the south into mountainous topography. Hunter can also access the DG Ranch off HW 93 (MP 165). Arizona Game and Fish has a sign-in box and several route designation signs. Hunters are reminded to respect private property restrictions. The route is a two track road that has several side roads accessing the western side of the mountains near the headwaters of Waterman Creek and the South Fork Santa Maria River. No roads continue through to the Date Creek Rd. Hunters can also access State Trust Lands to the south via a two track road (HW 93 MP 171). This road allows hunters to access Date Creek (no vehicle access, foot only). Again this road dead ends at the creek and does not continue through to the Date Creek Rd. The Date Creek Mountains can be access via a two track road (HW 93 MP 179). This road passes by private property before heading towards Hog Ranch Well and over the top of the mountains before ending on the north bank of Date Creek. Access across Date Creek is prohibited due to private property, respect and obey all regulatory signs to maintain current access. Closer to Wickenburg, hunters can access the Hassayampa River and desert ridges and flats south of Stanton via the Scenic Loop Road (HW 93 MP 195). This road passes through a residential neighborhood before dropping to the Hassayampa River bottom at Box Canyon. There are numerous roads that travel north towards the Stanton-Octave Rd.

ya, snakes suck! once you have a close encounter like that it's hard to think about anything else! LOL! nice finds though! James

my prayers go out to you my brother! my wife and I send our condolences to you and your family! I know he's eating a nice backstrap from a tender spike in heaven!! James

that buck is awesome! should be rubbing anytime now..... it seemed the growth spurt was a little behind this season so maybe why they haven't rubbed yet?? James

nice pics Keith! James