Flatlander

Golf course bull. If you are gunna kill a world record, you have to do it where he lives. 🤷‍♂️

My guess is he was on some sort of protected land most of the time. The Hanford Nuclear site in the thru-cities am has some huge bulls living on it but they are untouchable. Notice the wording, everyone is mentioning “free range” but not public. If he was a public land bull they would be blasting that for all the world to hear.

Just like everything else, it just takes more to get less now. Early 2010’s you could still buy leftovers on your way into town. It jumped pretty hard around 14 or 15 and you had to start putting a second choice down but you could still pretty easily get a second choice and some doe tags in those tough to access units. An access fee was a few hundred bucks paid to the rancher at his door. Then it took a COVID jump like the rest of western hunting, bumped another 2-3 pts. Then the bad winter of 22-23 cut tag numbers in many units. Doe tags got reduced a bunch. A unit I drew with 3 pts in 2016 now takes 9 to draw in the special. Thats creep of 2/3 pt per year. So I have to apply for 3 years to improve my odds by one point level. If that pace continued and I wanted to hunt a unit I drew with 3 pts again after drawing, I would have to apply for 12 years to catch up to the creep. The biggest issue with Wyoming is the number of people buying points on the sideline. You never know when they are going to jump in and bump a unit up 3-4 points. There are tens of thousands of people buying points without drawing. So if they decide they want to burn, they can pick almost any hunt. Couple that with their winters, where every 5-7 years they have a huge winter kill and the system quickly becomes a treadmill with an ever increasing cost to keep walking without making any progress. So I guess what I am saying is, if you can get a unit you are happy with now, then do it. It may not be a possibility later.

This is what Wyoming has become. Wait 3 years, pay $1,200 in special draw, drive 18 hrs, hike for two more to shoot a 13” buck.

You’re not my real dad

That is abundantly clear. Even the left leaning ESPN crew could tell the difference. You are the outlier here. I didn’t know you were from TX but I know you aren’t a steer…

I’m sorry what

You are on crack

Robbed

This aged like warm milk

I hear unit 23 in Wyoming is a low point option.

Alright boys, let's see some more bucks in the dirt. Go get em.

Good scope. The Gen 1’s are actually a lot better than the Gen 2’s because of the ability to ability to dial the image with the fine focus adjustment.

Wait, do you have a tag? I’m confused.

I know that you can transfer to a charity organization during an open season.

Nicely done! Now stay out! 😂

We didn’t receive any solicitation. Only guide we talked to was someone who we reached out to. Same story, he was super cool about giving us advice and even looking at pics and videos.

Screaming deal

Good optic. Much better than the Gen 2's.

This sucks. Prayers for his family and especially his daughter.

I saw that Amanda had a death in the family. Maybe she needed a break from our nonsense.

Nice work. Was that a Youth archery bull tag? Didn't know there was such a thing.

That 27 buck looks pretty good!

As a new hunter you probably don’t have any idea the hornets nest you just stepped into. 1. People spend their entire lives hunting and learning country and finding out the logistics of the when and where and why certain areas are productive. That information is hard earned with sweat, blood, fuel and time. So people aren’t likely to give that information away easily. 2. Unlike other outdoor recreation, an increase in the popularity of hunting has a direct negative impact on those already participating. This is especially true of hunts that have no limit on participation, like otc hunts. Every person that joins the sport is one more I have to compete with for a limited resource. 3. OTC archery deer is a particularly sore subject in this state. The number of otc tags sold has skyrocketed since 2020. Which also overlapped with a game and fish sponsored media campaign where they paid influencers to come to AZ and film hunts and talk about them on their podcasts. That increase in tag sales, and subsequent harvests has lead to a decline in opportunity with several units being moved from otc to a draw and the implementation of mandatory harvest reporting and harvest limits. Simply put, hunting opportunity is declining and interest is increasing. OTC archery is at the center of this debate in AZ right now. None of this is your fault, but you also have to understand where these dudes on here are coming from. They’ve seen one opportunity after another drift away into the sunset and it’s left scar tissue. In terms of your original question, you are in a good spot for what you want. Get some bino’s on a tripod, start looking for deer. When you find one you like, sneak until you are close enough to make the shot, then do it. Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

Can the richest and most famous guy also be the next guy in line?