Flatlander

Love my Ollin

So you read it or you didn’t?

Maybe just check one out before you start throwing stuff out there. We have an R10X and my kid who isn’t an expert but also isn’t “beer bellied” couldn’t shoot those kinds of groups practicing for 30 min 3-5x per week. No idea on airbows. I know people hate them but I haven’t ever seen one in the field. Seems like having to carry compressed air around would be a major limitation. Are these things really having a negative impact on the industry? Aren’t the trad bow guys making the same claim about compounds? It’s the same concept, just a different measure on the spectrum. Everyone wants their own methods included and nothing more. I don’t know what the right line is. I hunt with a vertical bow, so no skin off my back. But I also feel for guys who can’t and understand why they want to stay in the game. That makes my odds worse, for sure, but I at least understand it. Seems like you could just eliminate sitting water and take away a lot of the advantage right there while also keeping the efficacy down. 🤷‍♂️

I don’t know if that is true or not. The hunters I have hunted with weren’t getting those kind of groups. But they weren’t like world class shooters either. Do you know dudes getting those kinds of groups?

To be honest, I’ve been on plenty of hunts, archery and crossbow. I would never choose to shoot a crossbow over a vertical bow if I had the choice for a spot and stalk hunt. Carrying a tripod and that thing around, trying to cock it and hoping it doesn’t harpoon you in the mean time is horrible. For sitting in a blind, they are great. A lot easier to shoot. But if I am capable of shooting a vertical, that’s the way I am going. Kind of seems like a bunch of sour grapes from dudes who think a crossbow is something it isn’t.

Submit comments to the dept. Right now they are hearing one side of the equation.

Always getting it done. Nice work dude, congrats!

Nothing moral about the support you provide

It’s gunna take more than 7 pts and at least a couple drinks before I give you any of my holes

Gen 1 Vortex Razer HD 16-48 x 65 angled with two stage focus. Includes original box and eyepiece cover. Somehow I left the objective cover when we were packing up to kill Nash’s sheep. Glass is perfect. Body is good. These Gen 1 spotters are getting hard to find now that they are out of production and many users regard them as superior to the update UHD versions in production. I like the size of this spotter and it lived in my pack unlike any other spotter I have ever used. Light enough that I rarely noticed it. Decided to switch back to a straight body so letting this one go for what I paid for it. $450 ftf in the east valley or ship on buyers dime.

Sold

Did some threshold running today. 3 miles at 7:40 pace. One mile warm up and cool down. 5.6 miles by the time it was done.

Bump

As a dad who has been on the receiving end of much generosity I can empathize. Congratulations AJ! Nice work Dad and Chris. So much bigger than just an elk hunt. When the world wants to define someone by what they can’t do, it takes men like this to show them that they CAN do anything! Well done!!!

I think they are like personal friends based on Jay’s love letters online.

Go beg your boss for a raise

Ummmm, good for him 🤷‍♂️ I don’t think anyone in AZ should really give a crap what Jay Scott thinks anymore. He doesn’t even live here. He pretty much only hunts Mexico and private land in CO.

Start a new thread please

Golf course bull. If you are gunna kill a world record, you have to do it where he lives. 🤷‍♂️

My guess is he was on some sort of protected land most of the time. The Hanford Nuclear site in the thru-cities am has some huge bulls living on it but they are untouchable. Notice the wording, everyone is mentioning “free range” but not public. If he was a public land bull they would be blasting that for all the world to hear.

Just like everything else, it just takes more to get less now. Early 2010’s you could still buy leftovers on your way into town. It jumped pretty hard around 14 or 15 and you had to start putting a second choice down but you could still pretty easily get a second choice and some doe tags in those tough to access units. An access fee was a few hundred bucks paid to the rancher at his door. Then it took a COVID jump like the rest of western hunting, bumped another 2-3 pts. Then the bad winter of 22-23 cut tag numbers in many units. Doe tags got reduced a bunch. A unit I drew with 3 pts in 2016 now takes 9 to draw in the special. Thats creep of 2/3 pt per year. So I have to apply for 3 years to improve my odds by one point level. If that pace continued and I wanted to hunt a unit I drew with 3 pts again after drawing, I would have to apply for 12 years to catch up to the creep. The biggest issue with Wyoming is the number of people buying points on the sideline. You never know when they are going to jump in and bump a unit up 3-4 points. There are tens of thousands of people buying points without drawing. So if they decide they want to burn, they can pick almost any hunt. Couple that with their winters, where every 5-7 years they have a huge winter kill and the system quickly becomes a treadmill with an ever increasing cost to keep walking without making any progress. So I guess what I am saying is, if you can get a unit you are happy with now, then do it. It may not be a possibility later.

This is what Wyoming has become. Wait 3 years, pay $1,200 in special draw, drive 18 hrs, hike for two more to shoot a 13” buck.

You’re not my real dad

That is abundantly clear. Even the left leaning ESPN crew could tell the difference. You are the outlier here. I didn’t know you were from TX but I know you aren’t a steer…

I’m sorry what