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  1. I would imagine it will be treated no different then how they enforce the no flying rule. Lets say you don't have a tag for elk and I do and I put you in a plane and have you fly over my unit and you tell me what you see, guess what busted.
  2. Your right people can still run cameras but if anyone uses that information in aiding their take of wildlife they will be in violation.
  3. That statement is exactly the polar opposite of what actually happens. The AZGFD answer to the commission. The commission is the one who passes all the hunt orders and if the Department isn't headed down the path they have chosen they are quickly brought back on track.
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    Friday in Payson Trail Cameras

    They're definitely undermanned as for underpaid their starting salaries are getting pretty close to what other law enforcement agencies start at except they don't get all that overtime pay and every WM has a minimum of a Bachelor of Science degree. But lets face it the majority of their cases are because of solid tips from the public and there is no shortage of that in the hills these days and many hunters will be more than happy to help AZGFD with the trail camera rule change.
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    Friday in Payson Trail Cameras

    That's exactly what bonehead777 thought.
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    Friday in Payson Trail Cameras

    “Take” means pursuing, shooting, hunting, fishing, trapping, killing, capturing, snaring or netting wildlife or placing or using any net or other device or trap in a manner that may result in capturing or killing wildlife. You drawn an elk tag in "x" unit, you put cameras up in "x" unit. AZGFD officer catches you just checking your camera and checks in data base and realizes you have an elk tag. He now rights citation for take claiming you are using camera to pursue wildlife. You now spend thousands of dollars in attorney fees hoping judge doesn't go with definition of "take."
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    Friday in Payson Trail Cameras

    You wont have to kill an animal to be in violation of take, and you better really know what you're doing when it comes to deleting stuff from electronics, plenty of people been busted because they thought they had deleted stuff from their phones, computers ect. Larry Phoenix said in the very first meeting that 97% of hunters and fishermen comply with the rules and his WM's would have no problem enforcing the rule if that's the route the commission chose to go.
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    Friday in Payson Trail Cameras

    You better read the definition of take if you plan on running cameras and your defense is I was just getting pictures of the pretty animals
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    Friday in Payson Trail Cameras

    Unless your in Pima county or Coconino county call the AZGFD and tell them your neighbor is feeding the javelina and see what that gets you
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    Friday in Payson Trail Cameras

    Is that AZGFD law, big difference from their rules and city and count rules
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    Friday in Payson Trail Cameras

    You are correct and they can’t stop you from feeding wildlife but I would say they pretty effectively shut done baiting.
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    Friday in Payson Trail Cameras

    The commission is who started this, the AZGFD answers to the commission and when the commission wants something done the department will usually move heaven and earth to meet their wishes.
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    the draw

    The Department will provide notice on its website when the deadline to update credit cards is finalized. This is right from the regulations.
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    Friday in Payson Trail Cameras

    You can comment all you want but the department is recommending to the commission to vote on either option 1(full ban) or option 2( seasonal ban and 1/4 from water).
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    TRAIL CAM BAN UPDATE 3/17/21

    TIME CERTAIN AT 8:30 AM 3) Request to Approve Notice of Final Rulemaking and Economic Impact Statement Amending Rules Within Articles 1. Definitions and General Provisions and 3. Taking and Handling of Wildlife. Presenter: Larry Phoenix, FOR2 Regional Supervisor. The Department will ask the Commission to vote to approve a Notice of Final Rulemaking and Economic Impact Statement amending rules within Articles 1. Definitions and General Provisions and 3. Taking and Handling of Wildlife, related to the use of trail cameras.
  16. After all the crying and whining last draw the AZGFD will get everything loaded and ready to go probably run the draw making sure no issues and then send an email giving people 48hrs to update cc. with a 1159PM deadline. Cards will start getting hit around 7:30-0800 like every other year. Then the new crying and whining will start about how someone's card was comprised 3 minutes after the deadline to update.
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    Cost of living in Payson

    Don't forget BP agents and baby gender reveal parties.
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    Applying for a New Unit?

    If you're scared of the dark don't hunt the border units.
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    Applying for a New Unit?

    23,000 residents +/-, vs 3,000-4000 NR buy over the counter tags don't think it is a all NR problem.
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    2020 sheep report?

    There's 173 people with 30 points so good luck
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    Draw hunting dates overlap?

    Hunt Whitetail plenty but where I hunt there are 750 tags not 75.
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    Draw hunting dates overlap?

    It's not a rut hunt so if you've done your homework you should have at least 5 days of hunting before the muley hunters show up, should be plenty of time.
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    Draw hunting dates overlap?

    All the information is in their hunt guidelines and recommendations. Wouldn't worry about the mule deer hunters if you're hunting hidden spots for whitetail.
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    Willow Springs

    Next weekend at any of the rim lakes will make the city BS look like a walk in the park.
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