Anyone switched to copper bullets?

[oz31p]

No carbon poisoning concerns right ?

[firstcoueswas80]

1 hour ago, trphyhntr said:

 

that’s the problem. People blame the food pyramid, and they’re not even following it 

One the greatest sentences ever written dude. A lot of truth to that.

[trphyhntr]

12 minutes ago, firstcoueswas80 said:

One the greatest sentences ever written dude. A lot of truth to that.

Haha, that’s generous.

Pointing fingers is easier than personal accountability. 

[Crazymonkey]

Come down on bullet weight  as copper is longer and won't  need the same weight  your  use to . They need to have good  velocity  to expand  . Most are 1500- 1800 at impact . They are devastating  on the game I've used them on. Barns ttsx  outa my 7-08 . One shot drops on big hogs in California where the guides expected  two shot required  . Buddies  nephew  dropped  a cow elk with a 270 and barns copper  . She made it twenty  yds.  Copper usually  needs a good jump and .05 or more off the lands is common  to get them to shoot. 

[Chef]

Swab your rifle bore super clean, removing all fouling, before switching between all copper bullets and lead bullets (& vice versa) for circumvention of accuracy issues.

[Chef]

It Sounds Like a BB Gun… But It Hits Like a Freight Train!! - 8.6 Blackout

 

Here is a good video I watched yesterday on a heavy for powder, all-copper, bullet round with exceptional expansion even at slow speeds.

Ultra-fast twist rates are discussed, and I found it interesting that the bullet's expansion came from hydrostatic pressure due to the design.

[Schmitty]

If you are using the 6.5 creed, the 127 Barnes LRX has been a great all around bullet for us.  Longest shots have been around 400 yards with most between 1-300 but my wife, kids and friends have tipped over 8 elk, 3 mule deer and a few wt/hogs with it over the past 10 years.  Terminal performance has always been good.  We've had a couple of double lunged death runs that have gone 150 yards but the rest have either hit the dirt of only made it a handful of yards.

 

 

[maximus]

8 hours ago, wish2hunt said:

I would be worried more about what’s going into my fruits and vegetables before I would lead poisoning. 

or your beef, chikens and everything else. i was at costco and they have sliced turkey and on the label says no antibiotics so all the others are not free of antibiotics?

[trphyhntr]

7 minutes ago, maximus said:

or your beef, chikens and everything else. i was at costco and they have sliced turkey and on the label says no antibiotics so all the others are not free of antibiotics?

That’s just marketing, usda doesn’t allow antibiotics in all meat sold in the USA above a minuscule amount. 

[IA Born]

10 hours ago, Rudebob said:

I guess that is why I am questioning the performance on a small body animal like the cues.  They penetrate well but will it expand?  I am guessing ballitically 500 yards or less would be fine on my setup but at what point/distance do you risk only getting penetration?

My son shot a javelina on a youth hunt a few years ago.  He used my M1 Garand with 150 gr Barnes Vortx ammo. The shot was 75 yards and left a softball size exit wound.  No problem with expansion at all.  I made the switch to Barnes back in 2008 and have never looked back.  I used to be the California condor recovery program lead biologist.  Feel free to reach out to me anytime.

7 hours ago, wish2hunt said:

Go with lead and trim around around the wound channel 

I encourage everyone to look for and read the Minnesota DNR's test results for lead vs non-lead bullets.  They did it right.  The lined up euthanized sheep and shot them with various kinds of bullets: non-lead, high-end and low-ed rapid expansion lead core, high-end and low-end slow-expansion lead core, muzzleloader, and shotgun slugs.  They x-rayed every carcass and were finding lead fragments up to 24" away from the entry point.  IMHO, MN DNR did the best test out there when the non-lead bullet craze really started taking off and there was all kinds of skepticism.  I also have research articles regarding lead fragments in the grind when meat comes back from processors.

Take all of this for what it is or isn't worth to you.  I just like to pass on the data I have access to and can share those reports/articles with anyone interested.