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yes! I'd raise holy he-doubletoothpicks!

After you posted above I took screenshots of our portals. This is a year to remember... or forget! 🤣 mine is just an archery cow (2nd choice, probably the 11pm card hit), but my son has a November 5B bull tag.

so did they both get tags? haha, perhaps someone "verifying" info by hand wanted to gain some extra "averaged" BPs! lol

you've got to be kidding!

no

True enough, but we've actually scored one of those leftover tags in the past so it is possible, well, was possible... edit... & know we drew two tags this year so it doesn't affect me.

absolutely, depends on who was drawn before his number came up & where they put in for on 1st & 2nd choice. Think of it this way... While the odds may be less for a 2nd choice hunt, reality is those applying for specific hunts don't come in numerical order, only the random number assigned to each app.

Well, I'm sure everyone has already checked this morning, but we had a charge show up at about 11pm last night. Typically our card company posts charges immediately after being "hit", so not sure why that happened, but at the same time feel "blessed!"

nobody knows, & honestly there are usually a lot more on saying they got hit than the handful so far! I hope this isn't over!

hit too... 1 out of 4 apps, 1 elk

I should have labeled that other thread, "Longest 6+ weeks of the year!" 😪

FOIA is for Federal requests whereas this falls under state law. That said, AZ has something similar, but not nearly as stringent as FOIA laws. IMO, after looking into it recently, I believe it's easier for AZ State Agencies to get away with not divulging info than at the Federal level.

you'll fit right in...

Congrats on giving yourself (Vowell) bad karma in New Mexico opening up another tag for the rest of us! 😁

Honestly, the last thing I want while hunting is to have a guide screw up my hunt because he's trying to find/get his client a trophy. The guides & their minions I've personally had the displeasure of running into while hunting couldn't give a dang about screwing up other's hunts, but rather were only focused on pleasing their client/employer (& this came from talking with them afterwards). Know those of us who eventually will become tagholders (again) have often waited a decade or more for our hunts & have therefore earned our tags! I wonder how many guides would be out there if it were illegal to charge for guiding? I've "guided" family and friends too, but it wasn't to get paid, it was to share their life experience with them as family & close friends, & not for money. I don't personally know any of you here on CWT, certainly not any of the guides here, so to be fair I don't know if "you" are akin to those I've run into in the past described herein, I certainly hope not! All I can say is there have been numerous times I've been in a position where I was there first in on a large bull & a guide with his client screwed it up knowing full well I was getting close, perhaps just to prevent me from taking those magnificent animals (it certainly seemed that way). On the flip side, I've also had other (solo) hunters in the field back off when I was there first just as I have conversely done for others. That said, & in all fairness while it's probably happened, I have never experienced a guide/client back off when I was there first. It seemed their intent was to either have their client make the kill or nobody. If this is not you, then Thank You! Otherwise, leveraging wildlife to earn the almighty dollar can ruin this for all of us in the end, & that's my two cents, like it or not. BTW, I too use cameras & love checking them, so personally was against the overall ban fwiw. Again, I sincerely hope the guides here on CWT have honorable morals recognizing and respecting other tagholder's rights to pursue wildlife just as I know guides have the right to charge for guiding.

I think they me doing just that... anyone get a credit card hit for an elk tag that should have happened almost 3 weeks ago yet? 😯

we had about 6" or more of snow from Flag to Williams out of this past storm. It's supposed to get to 60° later this week though.

"Better job"? Specifically regarding the G&F, how do you know where any of your donated dollars are spent or who made those decisions? So you just trust that the money you donate goes where you intended it to go?... ok... While I personally have a lot of "faith", I have very little in how this state agency is now run including decisions on what programs any dollars are spent. We should be able to dictate where we want donation dollars (at a minimum) spent, but that's not an option, much less even the ability to give feedback on which programs we "prefer" our donations $s go. IMO, this is a state agency that appears to have very little accountability, or even the desire to appear to have any (publicly). Therefore we'll just have to "agree to disagree" on the blind faith we have in how our G&F Department spends $s. Without knowing which other organizations you said you support it's not possible to accurately comment on, although like you (& many others) I too support wildlife through water hauling & general habitat improvements.

They wait until the draw is complete... Crap, that means maybe by mid-April they'll start! 😁

thought you live there...?

My longest pack out was in the Valle Vidal of New Mexico back in '92, their version of a Sept rifle tag (but once in a lifetime hunt). Pack out was about 5 miles one way & I had help (2 others), so only lost a little bit. I was both younger & dumber then too! Best thing is it was relatively flat. That said, get help if possible... these are NOT coues!

correction... AZ did not vote in 2 democratic senators as well as biden. The rest of your statement was true imo though!

We had up to about a foot total in some areas, but varies widely by only a few miles. At my house in Flag we got about 8" -9". In Williams, there was realistically about 5" or 6" total. Some areas however it was more like 4". Another 3" inches of snow expected tonight in Williams though, & every little bit helps!

I wouldn't have used the word "comical"...

In the mid 80s my brothers & I decided to try/go back to traditional for elk so we ordered 80# Damon Howatt recurves. They built/sold us several, but we all broke them, most of which limbs snapped at full draw when releasing. (& don't think that didn't make you wonder if the limb was going to smack you after releasing either!) After several calls we finally got through to the tech building them. He told us he warned the salesman not to agree to build/sell them because the limbs/materials weren't engineered for the poundage we were asking for. We were holding about 96# at full draw with our draw lengths using the largest XX75 shafts made at the time. Later we gave it up & went back to compounds, although one of my brothers did kill a decent 6x with his old Wing recurve. ... or should I have said, "harvested"? 🤣