MogollonMan

I respect you owning you how you feel, unlike that cowardly truth warrior.

What you do and don't appreciate is of ZERO concern to me. You did and do all you can to continue to draw attention to these cases. Your intent is quite clear. You are not a righteous truth warrior. I'm for 100% transparency here. I feel Mr. Debaca and Mr. Koury (to a lesser extent) got railroaded. I would love to see the wardens, commission, and courts held accountable for their abuse of power in these and many other cases. Unfortunately, I don't believe that will happen. If that is having an "axe to grind", I absolutely do have an axe to grind. I've made my position and feelings very clear. Maybe sack up and do the same?

The biggest difference between guys like you, Trouble Sh00ter, members of the commission, and a lot of these guides is the fine line of hypocrisy. I'd bet a month’s pay that every one of us who have hunter more than a few season have unintentionally and unknowingly (as I believe was the case with both guides discussed here) committed as egregious of violations. Most of them would probably warrant a warning, small fine, or assigned education. But the commission, and you keyboard jurors, feeling max penalties and 5 year revocations are appropriate for these individuals is disgusting and abuse of power on the part of the commission.

I think you and Trouble Sh00ter ought to just come out and own the facts that you have major beef with any successful guide or outfitter, and are desperate to disparage them in any way. Facts and common sense seem irrelevant. We now have multiple threads about these recent cases that you two have started and nursed incessantly. Seems to me like little man jealousy syndrome.

If you apply on the same app, you will both fall under the non-resident cap. You would be handicapping him severely by putting in on the same application.

This is exactly what happened.

Man, you are the one who has been on these guys since the beginning. Don't pretend you don't have a personal axe to grind and weren't rubbing one out as the revocations weren't being announced. These court hearings are as suspicious as the commission hearings. Debaca was a perfect example. Sounds like the actual offender got off with a slap on the wrist for throwing Debaca under the bus. What a joke! Both Debaca and Koury got screwed because of who they are more than what they did.

The guide is always going to be the bigger notch on the warden's belt.

It was clear that anything said by either party or attorney was irrelevant. The outcome had been predetermined. I found it extremely interesting that Mr. Koury's attorney cited precedence of a seemingly more egregious violation of the same law where the guilty party was assigned education but no suspension. My main takeaways. The commission members are biased know-it-alls who are reinventing laws on the fly, and if you have shown yourself to be a highly successful guide or hunter, they are going to seek out any opportunity to make an example of you. Don't waste your time or money on attorneys or even bother going to the commission meeting.

That is plenty of room. You just don’t want it touching and want to be able to get your caps on.

Watched the video. Interesting that the hunters came up with a new plan for day 2 to spread out more over the area the birds were moving through. Shouldn't the "guides" have come up with this plan before the hunters showed up, especially if not using decoys or blinds? Definitely did not see much service for the money. A morning of scouting could have gotten you everything the guides did for you on the first 2 days. Definitely a bumber situation.

Any site admins able to assist?

Over the holiday I mentioned this site to a friend looking to sell a rifle. I tried to help him set up an account but each time we tried, he received this message. The "Security Check" "Error for site owner" appears to be the problem. Anyone know how to get past this or what the problem is? We filled out all other fields multiple times.

My cards are now getting hit.

I have several apps for hunts that are 100% draws. No charges. Something seems off this time. My daughter-in-law is two points over the max points line for the javelina hunt she put in for. No charge for her. That tells me we need to hold tight.