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Bruce Bingham 1999

June 6, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Archery Gallery with 0 Comments

Jan. 1999

Unit 29, Arizona

This buck was chasing a doe around an oak flat and Brian was able to get a thirty yard shot.  He used a 100 grain glue-on four-blade Muzzy broadhead to put him down in about fifty yards. No ground shrinkage here, official Bow Hunting in Arizona score, 111 5/8 net. If the G3 on the right antler had not been broken he would have netted over 115. Great buck!!

Bruce’s son Dane is with him in the second photo.  This is Bruce’s third state recordbook buck he has taken with a bow!

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Gary Baldwin 2000

June 6, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Archery Gallery with 0 Comments

Aug. 2000

Southern AZ

This deer was taken in 2000 during the early archery season in southern AZ. Gary watched this deer and several others for 2 months and actually missed a 30 yard shot on opening day due to pouring rain and low visibility (water in his peep sight). He harvested him several days later after a 300 yard stalk and a 42 yard shot.  His equipment consisted of a 75lb Darton Maverick, ACC 3-60, and a Snyper broadhead.

This buck has a Pope & Young Official score of 107 5/8 gross and 104 net.

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Brian Fish 2003

June 6, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Archery Gallery with 0 Comments

Jan. 2003

Southeastern, AZ

The buck was taken at 50yds after a 15 minute stalk. (15 minutes!!)

Brian saw the buck following a doe about 100 yards away as Brian walked to his treestand, which he had on a scrape line.  So instead of getting in the treestand, he started stalking the buck.  The country was fairly thick at an elevation of 8400ft. The buck was so engrossed with the doe that it was fairly easy to stalk him. When Brian got to 50yds the buck and doe started to head into a big thick canyon, so he figured that was the time to take him. The shot was true.

The buck is a 4×4 including eyeguards. It scores 92 inches gross, 88 1/2 inches net unofficially.

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Robert Andresen 2002

June 6, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Archery Gallery with 0 Comments

Sept. 2002

Unit 31, Arizona

Robert shot this buck at 22 yards.  It is 17 1/2 inches wide and 14 inches tall.  It nets 92 7/8.  Nice buck!

The lower picture is the same buck earlier in the summer.

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Coues Deer Celebration 5 – 2007-2008

June 4, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Video with 0 Comments

This video is the longest yet.  It’s about 10 minutes long and has over 220 photos in it.  You will see bucks of all kinds…..giant bucks, tiny bucks and lots in between.  Photos and video are from the website during 2007-08 season.

 


 

 

 

Coues Celebration 4 video

June 3, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Video with 0 Comments

This video is a collection of about 105 deer and other photos that CouesWhitetail.com members have sent in during the past 06-07 season. It has giant bucks and not-so-giant bucks, but it’s great to get your blood flowing! See if you or your hunting partners are in it! I output this as a high quality file, which means it’s much larger than the other three versions of Coues Deer Celebration videos.

 

June Arnold 2003

June 3, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Archery Gallery with 0 Comments

Jan. 2003

Unit 35A, Arizona

June shot this buck at 31 yards with her PSE Carrera with 100 grain Muzzy broadheads.  It was about 1 pm when she snuck up on this young Coues buck that was bedded between two manzanitas in tall grass.  She only had a front shot and took it, with the arrow going through the front of his chest and hitting part of his heart.  He didn’t go far and she got a fine deer.

Josh Epperson 1999

June 3, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Archery Gallery with 0 Comments

Josh Epperson

September 1999

Josh shot this buck at 12 yards from a stand over a salt lick.  The buck gross scores 102 0/8.  Net 96 inches after deducting for velvet.

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Mark Hanson 2003

June 3, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Archery Gallery with 0 Comments

January 2003

Gila County, AZ

Another fine archery deer taken in the Ponderosa Pine! Mark took this buck with a 40 yard shot at 10 in the morning from a tree stand.  He used a PSE Carrera, with Limb Savers, a Trophy Taker arrow rest and Winners Choice Bowstring.  He used ACC 3-49 arrows with 100 gr. Rocket “steelhead” broadheads.

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Mark Hanson 1994

June 3, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Archery Gallery with 0 Comments

Read about Mark’s hunt in the “hunt stories” section!

This bucks grossed 90 1/8 Pope and Young.

Dan Avendano 1995

June 3, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Archery Gallery with 0 Comments

Jan.  1995

Unit 37b, Arizona

Coues deer doe taken with a 60 yard shot.  Dan also shot a javelina on the same day!

Dan Avendano 1994

June 3, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Archery Gallery with 0 Comments

August 1994

Unit 24b, Arizona

This 3×2 buck still in velvet was taken with a 20 yard shot.

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Rueben and Javier Campos

June 3, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Rifle Gallery with 0 Comments

Oct. 2002

Unit 32, Arizona

Two nice bucks from the Galiuro Mtns.  The tall one on the left looks like it has no eyeguards, which is unusual in Coues.  Both are nice looking Coues.

 

John Branch December 2002

June 3, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Rifle Gallery with 0 Comments

Unit 23, Arizona

John killed this nice 4×4 with one shot from 320 yards.  He hunted every weekend of the season and passed on numerous smaller bucks.  I hunted quite a bit with John during the season and this is a really nice buck.  It is a very large bodied deer and had quite a bit a fat on it, which is remarkable considering the many drought years we have been having.

**update – I knew this buck was big bodied, but I just found out that it probably weighed 115-120 lbs. whole.  At the meat locker it weighed 79 lbs. and it had no head, legs, internal organs or skin on it!

Martin Guarena 2002

June 3, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Rifle Gallery with 0 Comments

Martin Guerena  December 2002

Unit 24A, Arizona

This 4×4 buck green scored 90 2/8 net typical.  1st circum.: 3 2/8 on both sides; main beams: 15 2/8 rt, 14 7/8 lft; inside spread: 12 0/8

Check out those long second points!  Martin hunted hard this season, passing on many smaller bucks.  Can you believe he got drawn for December Unit 24A two years in a row!!!! Lucky guy.

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Guarena 24A

June 3, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Rifle Gallery with 0 Comments

Martin Guerena, December 2001

Unit 24A, Arizona

This 5×5 buck officially nets 107 4/8 points (non-typical B&C). Main beams: 17 0/8; 16 0/8     1st circumference measurement: 4 1/8 on both sides     Inside spread: 14 3/8 Abnormal points: 3 points totaling 13 7/8 inches

Check out the 2nd tine on the left antler – It’s hard to see because it blends into Martin’s arm.

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Mark Clark December 1998

June 3, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Rifle Gallery with 0 Comments

Gila County, Arizona

This 5×4 buck officially nets 109 0/8 (nontypical B&C)

main beams: 17 1/8; 16 7/8

inside spread: 15 3/8

1st circumference 4 6/8 on both beams

Arizona Game and Fish Department Hunter Education Classes

June 2, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Hunting with 0 Comments

Arizona Game and Fish offers Hunter Education classes throughout the year. For the latest information, please visit their website.

Arizona Hunt Unit Maps

June 2, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Hunting with 0 Comments

These maps are provided courtesy of the Arizona Game and Fish Department.  They are published annually in the hunting regulations.  These maps were scanned from the 2002-2003 Arizona hunt regulations.  Feel free to download these images if you would like.

You can use these maps along with the draw odds and hunt stats that I have also posted to help you determine where you want to hunt.

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Overview of entire state.
Units 1-4 and 27. Area covered is north of the Mogollon rim around Holbrook and down to Clifton.
Units 5-9, 12-13. North of Grand Canyon and Flagstaff area.
Units 10, 15-20. Kingman and Prescott areas.
Units 16B, 20C, 39, 40, 42-46. Parker, Yuma, Gila Bend areas.
Units 28-37. Tucson, Chiricahua Mtns, Dragoon Mtns., Galiuro Mtns. , Ft Huachuca.
Units 20B- 24, 39 and 42. Phoenix, Payson, Roosevelt, Globe, Winkelman.

Classification data for Coues Whitetail in Arizona

June 2, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Hunting with 1 Comment

This table provides survey data for Coues deer in Arizona by unit and by year. Years covered are 1997-2001. Not all units were surveyed every year. Also, please note that this is what is usually referred to as “classification data”, meaning that these are counts of deer that were seen by wildlife managers during their surveys. These numbers do NOT represent the total number of deer in these units. Managers gather classification data to look at changes over time of buck:doe and fawn:doe ratios. These numbers are used to evaluate the herds. High buck:doe ratios usually occur in lightly hunted populations, whereas areas that are heavily hunted will have much lower buck:doe ratios. Fawn:doe ratios are used as a measure of the productivity of the herd. Ratios are most accurate when many deer are classified. So look at the total number of deer classified to see how valid the ratios might be. For example, in unit 1 in 2001 only 14 deer were seen. I wouldn’t put a lot of confidence in that classification data to be representative of the entire unit. Whereas in unit 36A in 2001, 347 deer were counted, which should give you more confidence in the ratios. The numbers in the “unclassified” column represent deer that were seen but could not be classified for sure as a buck, doe, or fawn. This might happen if a manager just saw the tail end of a deer disappearing into thick brush as they conducted the survey.

Data has been gleaned from the Arizona Game and Fish publication “Hunt Arizona – 2002 edition”.

Unit Year Bucks Does Fawns UC Total Bucks/ 100 does Fawns/100 does
1 2001 2 7 5 0 14 29 71
4 2001 1 12 2 0 15 8 17
5 1997 0 1 0 0 1 0 0
5 1998 0 2 0 0 2 0 0
5 2000 1 0 0 0 1    
6A 1997 9 38 8 0 55 24 21
6A 1998 9 27 5 0 41 33 19
6A 1999 6 25 18 0 49 24 72
6A 2000- 8 17 6 0 31 47 35
6A 2001 3 20 2 0 25 15 10
6B 1997 3 6 1 2 12 50 17
6B 1998 4 13 2 0 19 31 15
6B 1999 6 8 3 0 17 75 38
6B 2000 6 11 0 0 17 55 0
6B 2001 4 21 3 0 28 19 14
8 1997 1 16 5 0 22 6 31
8 1998 3 16 4 0 23 19 25
8 1999 2 20 0 0 22 10 0
8 2000 1 8 0 0 9 13 0
8 2001 4 14 4 1 23 29 29
19A 2001 6 10 2 0 18 60 20
21 1997 14 48 2 0 64 29 4
21 1998 21 47 18 0 86 45 38
21 1999 15 55 11 0 81 27 20
21 2000 12 20 3 0 35 60 15
21 2001 14 41 12 2 69 34 29
22 1997 29 115 21 0 165 25 18
22 1998 28 108 30 0 155 26 28
22 1999 25 89 47 0 161 28 53
22 2000 23 83 24 0 130 28 29
22 2001 37 95 23 1 156 39 24
23 1997 27 133 16 0 176 20 12
23 1998 16 65 25 0 106 25 38
23 1999 17 72 33 0 122 24 46
23 2000 18 98 9 0 125 18 9
23 2001 21 88 29 0 138 24 33
24A 1997 17 89 20 3 129 19 22
24A 1998 15 54 20 0 89 28 37
24A 1999 18 80 26 0 124 23 33
24A 2000 16 70 16 0 102 23 23
24A 2001 12 52 12 3 79 23 23
24B 1997 4 57 19 1 81 7 33
24B 1998 22 97 30 0 149 23 31
24B 1999 11 43 21 1 76 26 49
24B 2000 12 64 16 0 92 19 25
24B 2001 9 48 26 0 83 19 54
27 1997 13 41 10 1 65 32 24
27 1998 13 59 20 0 92 22 34
27 1999 28 100 30 0 158 28 30
27 2000 24 98 31 0 153 24 32
27 2001 17 46 9 0 72 37 20
28 2000 3 3 0 0 6 100 0
Unit Year Bucks Does Fawns UC Total Bucks/ 100 does Fawns/100 does
29 1997 27 135 32 8 202 20 24
29 1998 25 102 28 0 155 25 27
29 1999 16 92 28 3 139 17 30
29 2000 14 99 33 2 148 14 33
29 2001 19 98 30 2 149 19 31
30A 1997 25 116 40 0 181 22 34
30A 1998 21 88 30 0 139 24 34
30A 1999 12 93 38 0 143 13 41
30A 2000 19 77 23 1 120 25 30
30A 2001 11 87 28 1 127 13 32
30B 1997 20 94 33 0 147 21 35
30B 1998 37 95 41 1 174 39 43
30B 1999 12 51 30 0 93 24 59
30B 2000 13 54 34 0 101 24 63
30B 2001 28 77 33 1 139 36 43
31 1997 32 112 22 3 169 29 20
31 1998 20 95 26 3 144 21 27
31 1999 21 82 21 0 124 26 26
31 2000 24 84 12 2 122 29 14
31 2001 29 129 42 7 207 22 33
32 1997 38 164 42 3 247 23 26
32 1998 29 126 43 8 206 23 34
32 1999 34 126 33 1 194 27 26
32 2000 47 122 39 4 212 39 32
32 2001 34 132 40 2 208 26 30
33 1997 33 129 47 6 215 26 36
33 1998 31 98 53 2 184 32 54
33 1999 37 104 36 1 178 36 35
33 2000 29 132 50 1 212 22 38
33 2001 30 139 48 0 217 22 35
34 2000 0 3 1 0 4 0 33
34A 1997 20 223 61 2 306 9 27
34A 1998 31 211 82 11 335 15 39
34A 1999 28 256 87 16 387 11 34
34A 2000 29 189 57 38 313 15 30
34A 2001 20 142 67 88 317 14 47
34B 1997 18 138 20 0 176 13 14
34B 1998 14 87 28 6 135 16 32
34B 1999 11 59 20 1 91 19 34
34B 2000 17 75 23 6 121 23 31
34B 2001 20 82 42 10 154 24 51
35A 1997 26 144 21 2 193 18 15
35A 1998 21 79 23 0 123 27 29
35A 1999 27 70 21 0 118 39 30
35A 2000 24 92 29 3 148 26 32
35A 2001 30 72 40 4 146 42 56
35B 1997 19 153 29 3 204 12 19
35B 1998 17 112 53 1 183 15 47
35B 1999 11 63 27 3 104 17 43
35B 2000 14 64 21 0 99 22 33
35B 2001 30 85 44 6 165 35 52
36A 1997 39 193 54 1 287 20 28
36A 1998 30 155 61 10 267 18 37
36A 1999 24 149 71 4 248 16 48
36A 2000 24 85 35 0 144 28 41
36A 2001 29 215 99 4 347 13 46
36B 1997 46 128 35 3 212 36 27
36B 1998 34 102 30 6 172 33 29
36B 1999 33 139 42 1 215 24 30
36B 2000 17 116 18 0 151 15 16
36B 2001 26 123 38 0 187 21 31
36C 1997 24 107 31 7 169 22 29
36C 1998 34 118 27 4 183 29 23
36C 1999 28 109 36 1 174 26 33
36C 2000 10 70 19 0 99 14 27
36C 2001 14 89 31 0 134 16 35
37A 2001 0 1 0 0 1 0 0
37B 2001 1 0 0 0 1    


San Carlos Apache Indian Reservation Coues Deer Hunt Summary

June 2, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Hunting with 0 Comments

by Nathan Pamplin, Wildlife Biologist
February 4, 2003

The San Carlos Apache Indian Reservation in east-central Arizona has been noted as one of the premier places to hunt Coues deer.  The Reservation is 1.8 million acres in size and has Coues deer located throughout the region.  Habitat is extremely diverse and ranges from Sonoran desert to coniferous forest.  The Reservation issues tags on a first-come, first serve basis.  Two hunts are held each year; a pre-rut hunt in late-November and a rut hunt in January.  For the 2003-2004 hunts, 45 tags will be made available for the November pre-rut hunt and 78 tags will be made available for the January rut hunt.  The Reservation is divided into four hunting units, with tag prices varying depending on the unit and the season dates.  Tags range in price from $700 to $3,000.  Only one sub-unit is Tribal guide required, but the rest of the units do not require a guide.  However, if you do hire a guide, they must be a Tribal licensed guide. For more information about tag prices, season dates, regulations, and tag availability contact the San Carlos Recreation and Wildlife Department at (928) 475-2343.

The November 2002 and January 2003 data is still being compiled.

If you want to see some more detailed, but older data that Amanda Moors compiled as biologist from 1995-99, click here(PDF file, 1MB).  Otherwise some of the success rates are shown below.

Historical Success Rates and Rack Size for Coues Deer November Harvest Statistics (Units A, B, C)

Year Percent Success Avg. Pts. Right Antler Avg. Pts Left Antler
2001

25

3.67

3.33

1998

38

4.07

3.93

1997

33

3.75

3.58

1996

32

NA

NA

1995

43

3.78

4.22

1992

30

NA

NA

Coues Deer January 2002 Harvest Statistics

Unit Hunters Harvest Success
A

7

2

29

B

6

6

100

C

10

0

0

D

13

9

69

Unreported

4

1

25

Total

40

18

45

Historical Success of Coues Deer January Hunts (all units combined)

Year Percent Success

2002

45

1999

65

1998

60

1997

45

1996

74

Where to Hunt Coues Deer

June 2, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Hunting with 0 Comments

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Coues deer can be hunted throughout their range. Arizona and Mexico offer the most hunting opportunities because most of the Coues deer are found there. New Mexico has a fairly limited number of Coues deer, but they do offer hunts in the southwestern part of the state.

In Arizona and New Mexico, you can hunt public land with or without a guide. But to hunt Mexico, you will be looking at spending quite a bit of money to hire a guide who has rights to hunt on the many private ranches in Mexico. Mexico has some excellent hunting for Coues deer. If you can afford a to do it, I recommend it. Here is a link to an excellent article by Jay Scott discussing the requirements and procedures for hunting in Mexico. This article (reprinted here with permission) was originally published by Western Hunter magazine and Jay Scott Outdoors. Both the magazine and Jay’s blog have some excellent information in them, check out their websites.

Arizona

In Arizona, Coues deer are found from the southern border with Mexico up to the Mogollon rim. However, the core of their range is in the mountains of southeastern Arizona. Arizona has some vast areas of public land, primarily US Forest Service and BLM land. The Chiricahua, Santa Rita, Galiuro, and Graham mountains are some popular choices for hunting Coues deer.

The map on the left shows the distribution of Coues whitetail in Arizona and is provided courtesy of the Arizona Game and Fish Department. The map is from the AGFD publication entitled “General Ecology of Coues White-tailed Deer in the Santa Rita Mountains”. The map doesn’t include Coues on Native American Reservations. The San Carlos and White Mountain reservations have significant Coues populations and are located in the area where Gila, Graham, Navajo and Apache counties meet. Click on the map to see a larger version. The density of deer (deer per square kilometer) in each area is color-coded. You can see that the southeastern part of Arizona has the highest density of Coues deer.

To help you select a unit to hunt, I have also posted the AZ hunt unit maps and the statistics that the Arizona Game and Fish Department provides on hunts and deer surveys conducted in the state. Click on the links below or the buttons on the left side of the page to see the data you want. Use these statistics and maps to help you decide which unit to apply for. Some hunts have 100% draw odds, some are much lower.

Arizona allows you to put in for several hunts. You designate which hunt is your 1st choice, which is your 2nd choice and so on. I usually put in for a tag that I really want for my first and second choice. This may be an early rut hunt in December with low draw odds. Then for my third and fourth choices I put in for one of those units with close to 100% draw odds. That way if I don’t get my first choice, I will get drawn on my later choices. Generally, the units with high draw odds are the October/November pre-rut hunts. Of course those early hunts are not ideal for trophy hunting, but if you know some good areas you can be successful at getting large deer.

Survey Data Links
Hunt Data Links

 

In Arizona, you can also hunt Coues deer on the 1.8 million acre San Carlos Apache Indian Reservation. The San Carlos has some excellent Coues deer hunting with only a small number of permits allowed each year. They have a pre-rut hunt in November and a more expensive rut hunt in January. A few hunts require a guide, but most hunts do not. Tags can be purchased from the San Carlos Recreation and Wildlife Department on a first-come first-served basis. Tags usually become available around the first of January, but these tags sell very quickly. Prices range from $700 to $3000, depending on the unit and date. For the most current hunt regulations and prices, please call the Recreation and Wildlife Department at (928) 475-2343. Only tribal members are allowed to guide on the San Carlos. You can receive a list of licensed guides from the Dept. For hunt success information for the San Carlos Reservation, please click here.

The White Mountain Apache Reservation, located just north of the San Carlos, does not allow non-tribal members to hunt Coues deer. The Tohono O’odham Reservation in southern Arizona also has excellent Coues deer but does not allow non-tribal hunting. The Navajo Reservation in northern Arizona, which has an extensive non-member hunting program, does NOT have any Coues deer.

New Mexico

New Mexico has two subspecies of whitetail, Coues and Texas. Texas whitetail are found in the eastern half of the state and the Coues whitetail is found in the southwestern portion of the state. Units 15A, 16A, 16B, 16C, 16D, 17, 21A, 22, 23, 24, 26, and 27 have Coues. Barry Hale, biologist with NM Game and Fish, suggests that units 23 and 27 are best for hunting. If you need more information on Coues Deer in NM, you might contact Kevin W. Rodden, the SW Area Game Manager for NMGFD. His phone number is (575) 532-2111.

Visit the New Mexico Game and Fish web site for more information about seasons and licenses. Residents and non-residents can purchase licenses online.

16 Antlers – One Buck

June 2, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Shed Hunting with 0 Comments

by Monica King

“All these shed came from the same buck?”

If we had a dollar for every time someone has asked this question, we would have a new storage shed for all our antlers! Some faces stare back in disbelief when we tell them deer loose or “shed” their antlers from year to year. Then they are told that antlers can be tracked to a specific buck from one year to the next. They look at us like we are nut cases telling “fish stories”. I was surprised this even to be true at hunting expositions and trade shows. Next comes… “Well, then these deer must be in a zoo or penned up somewhere.”

“No,” we say, “the sheds are from public land. We just don’t have any soles left on our boots!”

Shed hunting requires a lot of time, patience, hiking, and dedication. Did I mention hiking? I should emphasize—a LOT of hiking! Then comes the knowledge of how to tell what you have got once you have it. An antler is not, just something “cool” to find. It is a piece of a puzzle. The puzzle being that of the life history of a buck.

First, find an antler. Then look around. The other side is sure to be… somewhere. Knowing the general area that the certain type of animal’s habit is a good start. For example, let’s say you just found a Coues whitetail shed. Well then the other side should be within a one mile radius. Start “zig-zagging”, look under and in every bush, tree, and rock! Have I mentioned …. Do A LOT of hiking!!!

You just found another shed antler! Way to go! But… Does it go to the same buck? Is it a match from the same year? Is it to a different deer? Or is it the same deer, just the year before? Can’t tell? Look at the pedicle of the antler. This is where the antler base would have been attached to the deer’s skull prior to shedding.

A pedicle imprint is a buck’s fingerprint. NO two are alike. One may be concave, another convex, one may have a small dimple in the right corner, another the left, and so on, and so on. Each buck will have a different characteristic. However every antler coming from the same buck will have basically the same pedicle imprint from side to side, year to year. Another characteristic to also confirm is the burr. The circumference of the burr may change from one year to the next, but the texture around the base generally remains the same. Next check the spacing from the burr to the eyeguard and the eyeguard to the back tine, this will also usually be similar year to year. One thing you can never rely on is the number of tines and their lengths.

Having sheds from year to year helps determine, in our best educated guess, how old a deer is and if he is at his prime. We usually try to harvest bucks between six and eight years of age. Antlers of younger bucks have not reached maturity and older bucks tend to decline in size after their prime.

The buck we are going to focus on is nicknamed “Grand Dad”. The first shed we have off this deer is from when the buck was one or two years old. My husband, Dan, believes this buck to be a yearling at this time due to the size of the burr. The set of sheds from year 2 is missing. This can be decided by the dramatic increase in circumference size of the burrs from one year to the next set of sheds that we have. Normally, in Dan’s experience, Coues bucks grow approximately 1/8” in diameter from year to year until they reach their prime. At this time they generally will remain the same for a couple years until they get older, at which point they can actually decrease in size. The pairs of antlers from year 3 and year 4 are those of a buck most trophy hunters would look down their noses at and harvest on the last day of the hunt as a “cull” buck. They would be thinking they did the herd a favor by not letting this buck’s genetics spread. HOLD ON!! Don’t pull the trigger finger yet! Year 5 the buck is just about getting there and year 6 is a little bigger yet. HOLD ON! Year 7 he is looking real good, grossing approximately 118 0/8”! But wait! Here comes year 8! The BUCK EXPLODES! He has picked up mass, beam length, and tine length. The beam of the buck’s right antler is 22 1/8” and the left antler beam is the same. The monster eyeguards are 7 0/8” and 6 6/8”. The first circumferences are 4 7/8” and 4 4/8”. With an estimated spread of 16”, this buck would gross 126!!! We have waited long enough! Now is the time to harvest this buck. He is at his prime. He is just a late bloomer! Could he be found during the hunting season? NO!! At year 9 he sustained an injury on his right antler while in velvet. This caused a unique “freak of nature”. However this did nothing to take away from this buck’s gross score. His “spike” side alone grosses 51 3/8”. He also gave us his best shed this year, his left side grossed a total of 59 1/8”. So even at nine years of age he still scored an estimated gross of 126!!

At year 10 his mass decreases and he starts to do those crazy-wavy tines that older bucks do. But even though this buck has lost mass, he still grosses a whopping 126!!!!

So next time you are faced with just taking a buck for meat or “culling” a buck on the last day, take a good hard look before you pull the trigger. Picture yourself with the same buck two or three years down the road…posing with that mature, one of a kind trophy….Picture how much bigger he may be…And picture how much bigger your smile will be. The memories of that hunt will stand out forever in your mind and follow you wherever you go. While reminiscing, don’t forget to pat yourself on the back for letting that buck go when he was younger, for letting the buck shed two or three more years of sheds, watching the buck grow to trophy class.

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This photo shows the antlers from the buck in the article.

The photos below are from some other bucks, but show the progression of antler growth over time. Consistently finding sheds from the same buck for years, takes a tremendous amount of work and dedication. Dan and Monica King are serious about antlers!

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Why Shed Hunt

June 2, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Shed Hunting with 0 Comments
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A shed antler I found in the Galiuro Mountains in Arizona during my November 2002 deer hunt. It was lying near some boulders along the side of a dry drainage lined with oak trees. Click on picture to enlarge.

Why Shed Hunt?

Shed hunting can be a great way to scout out an area. While you are searching for antlers, you will learn where the deer trails are and the bedding areas and probably where the water sources are. Shed hunting is also a great way to keep in shape during the off-season. It’s a great family outing too. Kids will enjoy spending time in the woods with you and their eyes will light up if they get lucky enough to find an antler!

When to shed hunt?

Coues deer shed their antlers much later in the year than do the northern and eastern whitetails. Coues shed theirs from April to May. This means that if you are a shed hunter, you will be out hunting up the newest sheds in some of the hottest times of the year. Of course you can find sheds at any time of the year, but the freshest sheds will be in the Spring when the bucks are dropping them. Shed antlers look best when they are newly shed. Over time, the antler becomes cracked and faded if it falls in an area exposed to the sun.

Where to shed hunt?

Did you see a huge buck last fall and you are wondering where his sheds are? Since I am not a big shed hunter, I imagine there are a lot of other people who could answer this question better than I can. Most of the time that I find sheds I am not actively searching for them, but just scouting or hunting. I often find shed antlers in drainages. That is probably due more to the antlers being washed into the drainage rather than the deer actually shedding there. So when I am scouting out an area, I tend to look more for antlers when I am in a drainage. I also find antlers around bedding areas and in some of the more open feeding areas, such as juniper and oak flats. You want to search in areas where the bucks are in April and May. If you are looking for a particular bucks sheds, try and locate where he is spending his time just before shedding time.

Can you train your dog to shed hunt?

Some people do use dogs to help them find sheds. I have a dog who loves to hunt (or rather chase things). But she isn’t very impressed with my request to have her find some inanimate thing like antlers. I have asked around on the best method to train a dog to shed hunt. Some have told me to use the force-breaking-to-retrieve technique. With that technique you are supposed to be able to train a dog to retrieve all kinds of things that it wouldn’t normally be interested in. Other people say they just play games with their dogs involving antlers, so that the dog thinks antlers are fun to pick up.

Have you taught your dog to shed hunt? How did you do it? Let us know.

To see pictures of sheds, go to the Coues deer shed photo gallery.

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Bob’s Buck

June 2, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Hunt Stories with 1 Comment

by Dale Gonzales

Let me introduce myself, my name is Dale, buddies know me as Gonzo. After 15 years of bow hunting I was blessed with a once in a lifetime Buck. Here is my story.

I hunted with a bow for 8 years unsuccessfully before I met Bob Nelson a hunter who harvested many deer in his time in New York. Bob and I hunted together for 7 unsuccessful years but we saw many fascinating deer. After a long day hunting we would play pool at his cabin and watch the deer that would come in setting off his motion lights and wonder if we would get a shot at one of them the next day. The camaraderie we had was great and became dearly missed when Bob passed away in September of 2007.

It took me 3 years to convince my new hunting buddy, Willie, to set up a spot where Bob and I hunted. After a ton of convincing Willie came out with me the second week of December 2009 and set a spot up that we called Bob’s spot.

January 1st I had to watch a great 95-buck walk away behind me as Willie looked on. 29 hrs later on January 10, 2010 at 9:55 I looked to the sky after 2 and 1/2 hrs and said, ” Bob, How bout you send me a Big Ol Buck and we will both go into the record books and I can leave this stand”. Five minutes later a Big Ol Buck came in behind me and I sat and watched him walk away just as the buck on opening day had done. As he got to about 50 yards and near out of site I chose to blow a doe in heat call that I had picked up 10 years ago at Clint’s Wells. Before I new it the buck was 22 yards from my tree stand that was 25 feet high and I was ready to take a shot. As he turned broad side I pulled back my bow only to have Bob’s Buck flat out bust me.

I closed my eyes and kept peaking at him to see if he was still watching me. My mind was going crazy thinking, “Do I take a neck shot? How long can I hold this bow back? Did I draw prematurely? The fatigue set in and I settled for a neck shot but just then Bob’s Buck turned slightly to the left and I released into the right rib cage of the biggest deer I had ever laid my eyes on.

Panic set in as I text my good friend Willie that I had “shot a monster”! He replied, “Which One”, I didn’t know because on our trail cam we couldn’t make out one deer in particular so I answered, “ I didn’t know”! I have 4 boys at home and have always been about the meat knowing one day when they were all on their own I would have my chance at a trophy. Little did I know that that time was now. Willie text me back that one of his friends Seth would be to the site in 30 minutes. It seemed like a lifetime but as I headed to my truck I met Seth with another friend Dan and they both wanted to find this monster I had told Willie of. I was very concerned that we would not find the giant I had shot because the blood trail was next to none. Little did I know that these guys were on the top of their game that day and in about 2 hrs of tough tracking they found my deer 200 yards from my site. I call him “Bob’s Buck” in dedication to my late friend.

I have had him scored twice and will be getting a third opinion soon but one came in at 135 and the other at 127 3/8. His bases are 5 3/8 just to give you all some idea. This is only the second buck I have ever shot with my bow. The first was a 2X2 on January 1st of 2009. Sometimes pictures don’t do justice but here he is. Enjoy “Bob’s Buck”.

 

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My Giant Archery Coues Buck!

June 2, 2012 by CouesWhitetail in Hunt Stories with 1 Comment

by Mark Oliva

PIC Mark Oliva with his monster archery Coues buck!

The hunt for this buck started on January 5, 2010, when Joe Gonzales and I laid eyes on a monster Coues buck tending a doe. We knew he was big but didn’t realize just how big he was until Joe set up his spotting scope to get a better look. That’s when Joe realized we were watching a world-class animal. Joe has seen some of the best Coues deer around, from the States to Old Mexico. Joe took a world class muzzleloader Coues deer in 2008 and has hunted old Mexico where he took another trophy buck. Joe set up his camera and proceeded to video the monster buck for three hours getting amazing rutting action on video. After waiting until he bedded, we made a plan for a stalk. Joe found himself within 60 yards of the bedded monster. With the wind swirling in different directions, the buck stood and followed his doe to a more secluded area. When the buck got up to leave, Joe was able to draw his bow and take a tough downhill shot that nearly connected. The buck never spooked but followed his doe down a draw and out of sight.

The next few days found us watching and patterning this buck, and at times, closing the distance with this buck. Incredibly, we were able to locate and watch the buck six out of the seven days we pursued him. Then on Friday, January 16, we had the buck and his does spotted on the same ridge. The buck would not leave a hot doe, chasing several other bucks including one buck we thought would go between 110-115”.

Joe and I decided to work the East and West ridge trying to close the distance. It was a long and tedious stalk through loose rock and dry grass, but we knew we were getting close. We were losing daylight fast and thought we had missed an opportunity with the giant buck again when all of the sudden, a doe crested the ridge with the monster in tow. I ranged the doe at 63 yards and prepared for the shot. I knew it was now or never. In one fluid motion, I drew back and set my pin on the buck and let the arrow fly. As I shot, the buck took a step forward, and I had a sinking feeling I had hit the buck a little the far back. The buck then continued forward and was out of sight. Joe and I met up and decided the best thing to do was go back to camp and give the buck some time.

That night we made plans for the next day, which included Joe’s brother, Fatman, a superior hunter and avid outdoorsman, and good friend, Robert Alvarez, who is well-respected in the Coues deer world. We decided the best plan was for everyone to get up high behind their optics to try and relocate the buck. An hour after daylight, Joe located the bedded buck under a tree. After observing the buck for some time, we knew the buck was in bad shape, but still very much alive. The plan was to keep Robert and Fatman up high watching the buck as Joe and I worked our way toward the monster buck. Robert and Fatman were to signal us if the buck left his bed. At 60 yards, Joe, with a keen eye and ungodly knowledge of giant Coues deer, was able to locate the bedded buck. After moving inch by inch, I was able to stalk within 20 yards and finish him off with two more arrows. After a moment of shock, it all hit. The desert erupted in total chaos with all of us yelling with excitement. This is when I realized we had just accomplished the unthinkable, harvesting a world class Coues with a bow using spot and stalk methods. We all met up to admire the fallen giant with high-fives and hugs. This buck is incredible with tons of mass and plenty of extras. Since we had first videoed him, he had broken about 2 ½-3” on his left side and two more points on his right side. (One of which was broken at the base and looked to be quite large.)

PIC Mark’s buck as he lay.

I would like to give thanks to my wife and son for being supportive of my passion for hunting and the outdoors (and the inspirational note from my son); to my bro, Joe, who made it all possible, Fatman and his boys for all their help; and Robert, we couldn’t have done it without him; and to Jay Lopeman and family for taking the time out of a busy schedule to enjoy such a moment of a lifetime.

Mossback Arizona does it again! Enjoy the pics

We rough scored the buck at 135 inches!

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