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Wagges

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About Wagges

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    Hunting, Fishing, Long Range Guns, Reloading

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  1. Wagges

    G&F misleading public

    Enforcement is a joke, Game and Fish officers are an Endangered Species. There is no one watching out for wildlife. Our game & fish officers are now state law officers, and believe it or not that is not WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT. Just be happy they're not the ones looking out for your safety. 15 years ago we would at lease see a warden during every opening weekend. They now spend there time on ATV management, and I am sure you guys have seen how well that is going.
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    ATTENTION UNIT 23 LOVERS!

    I hate California, I am 3rd generation AZ Native. I make my own decisions and from what I have seen happen to this state for 40 years. Just because we where taught as kids to do something and find out later it's wrong, doesn't mean we shouldn't change it. Most people want to believe the cattle association is better than the Anti's. One and the same. Cattle will never go away but it doesn't have follow a model of destruction that has been in place for 75 years. We all have to divide the pie. I am the furthest person you would ever be able to call left leaning.
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    ATTENTION UNIT 23 LOVERS!

    My understanding is that most of the beef that comes from southwest and leased lands is sold over seas. I was told this by a rancher/cattle man. This is a term I use for a person solely makes his money from the sale of cattle. He told me the majority of our beef goes over seas, China. Don't quote me on the true amount as I admit I don't know the percentages. It's wrong to lose habitat and wildlife numbers to overseas interests. The cattle industries in the Midwest and East do it on private lands. This cattleman, told me that the average desert ranch with some property and the lease, is selling for 800,000.00 to a million, and you can't touch the ranches in the better elevations because of the price. So please don't ask me if I eat steak. For 30 years I have eaten ELK, Deer, Antelope and have not bought one package of hamburger. I DO BUY STEAKS AT COSTCO. All the ponds are all ready built, so what exactly do they do for wildlife besides drink them DRY
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    ATTENTION UNIT 23 LOVERS!

    Hello Jim I am sure you believe that the cattle ranchers care about our wildlife, but I feel this far from the truth. They care about profits and how much they have to pay for PUBLIC lease to make the money. YOUR public lands are for sale, only to ranchers. As a normal US Citizen you cannot lease the land unless you are a rancher. They resent the public and are constantly trying to stop our access to our lands. They truly believe that the lease grants them rights that supersede our own. Your organization should spend your dollars in ways that only help native wildlife, not invasive species like Cattle, Burros, Horses. Your project at DATE CREEK Ranch helped cattle about 90% over Mule Deer, Javelina, Quail, and other native species. Last time I was there, the only animals that could drink at your drinkers were cattle, horse, and adult deer. As sportsmen, we want to see as much wildlife as possible, not privately owned livestock. In my first post, I said that I that I have given up believing that anything will change. I appreciate that employees that volunteer and I believe they want to make a difference and help. These are not the same people who create policy. Those employee's hands are tied when it comes to the decisions made that impact our public lands. Those efforts are commendable, but my position remains the same.
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    ATTENTION UNIT 23 LOVERS!

    Putting 1000 pound animals in the desert and expecting the native animals to thrive is insane. Quail and other small animals can't ground nest with no cover. All your bullshit about Co-op is always one sided, the CATTLE Associations way. Whenever I see people advocating for cattle industry, it seems they are also those who financially benefit from their agreements . The largest group with the best lobbyists. Cattle in AZ is like putting a dinosaur in Phoenix and expecting that situation to work itself out. Most states receive enough rain to compensate for this large of grazing, not AZ-not even close!
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    ATTENTION UNIT 23 LOVERS!

    In my opinion there should no longer be cattle on public land. There would be natural water sources for our elk, deer, etc if cattle weren't overgrazed on our public lands for the last 75 years. This crap will never change. Forest service is the laziest group out there. Just look at how they are letting the utv's destroy our forest. Its all bullshit that wo'nt change. I am Native Arizonan of 52 years and have given up on Arizona Game and Fish and National Forest Services. Now I hunt other states. Hunting will be for the rich not for The average man or woman. What will game and fish do when they have nothing to sell, sell us camping permits?
  7. San Carlos bird 21 pounds, 10.5 inch beard, tough hunt called in several but had accuracy problems missed several. My son's hunt was his 6th consecutive tag in a certain unit and he is 6 for 6. He also missed several birds this year, but was able to shoot this young bird. All of his shots where around 25 yards. The problem with some of the long range ammo we use is a very tight group at close range. Most of the toms were all alone and all of the hens we saw were by themselves. I believe they were on eggs already, or in the process. This great news for all you guys this week-end. What worked best for us was moving on toms several times. We found this made them believe we were a real hen on the move. There were several people up in the area calling toms,. They were calling for fun, but they were not hunting. ETA Not sure why the pictures are posting sideways?
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    Fast Eddie Spot Hog Sight

    I used this single pin sight for 6 months, and then went a different direction. I don't have the container it came in, or the directions. I know you can get more tapes for the wheel. http://www.lancasterarchery.com/spot-hogg-sight-tape.html for 5.00 dollars. This sight is very easy to set up. $100.00
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    Unit 23 Late Hunt

    My son wants a 350 bull, but reality is we are looking for a 320 to 350. I have taken two bulls over 380 with a bow and believe that I can judge them well. We just don't know what to expect, not being around the unit for several years. I used to know the family that owned the Elenwood Ranch, and I spent a lot time there early 2000. Back then there were to many people that hunted that area. I know they kill big bulls in Sept. around Canyon creek, and Neaglin rim and but I thought most of them traveled back to the reservation before the end of Nov. I also hope the hunters spread out with only 125 tags. Is there a area to stay away from because of hunter density? Thanks for the help and input, we both appreciate it.
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    Unit 23 Late Hunt

    My 16 year old son drew this tag. I put him for this hunt, but did not realize how hard it is to draw, around 5%. We are looking for anyone that has been in the unit the last couple years in late November or December, maybe someone who was on a deer hunt or a elk hunt that has seen some nice bulls. He can shoot up to 700 yards and is in great shape. My ability at 52 is not as good as it once was. I spent most of my youth hunting coues deer and late archery elk. I am very familiar with this unit, but I have not been in the unit in 10 years. I know the success rate is high and probably the ONLY unit left that AZGFD manages the right way. As there are very few tags, we really want to shoot a quality elk. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
  11. Bow Tech Prodigy used one year, This bow has a large adjustable draw length, and three performance setting with the module. Limbs are 60 pounds. Rip cord fall away rest, Alpine soft lock quiver,G 5 three pin sight with floating fourth pin. 400.00
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    Goulds in 31

    Here is my Gould's video from April of 12018 in Unit 31. Great hunt but my only regret is that I didn't use my bow. I had foot injury right before the hunt and had to hunt in a hard sole slipper. I have a lot of other short videos, but the one I attached was the best one. Not very many turkeys up there,, but when you find one, they are very easy to call in. I have killed over 20 turkeys in AZ, and this experience was second to none. Rio in 13B is next on the list. Thank all of you for the information and helpful replies, it was GREATLY appreciated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nku4HP9aoGs&t=2s
  13. I have owned this gun for 6 months, and it shoots 1/2 groups at 100 and 3 inch at 700 yards. I have put about 150 rounds through it. Selling because it weights 9.0 pounds and I have two other Creedmore's. Great gun,great trigger, no complaints and that is amazing for a Aavage. Velocity at 2725 with a 143 Hornady ELDX, best groups for me. Energy at 700 is 1111 foot lbs.
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    San Carlos

    This is my 15th year hunting the San Carlos Reservation. I was able to harvest a very nice bird. I know that all of you who love Spring Turkey Hunting so much that you are willing to pay $250.00 to hunt these birds must have noticed the changes this year. This has been the toughest year ever. I BELIEVE THIS IS DUE TO THREE HUNTS. I think they have taken a page out of Arizona Game and Fish handbook of over hunting and pray that the 30% success doesn't over achieve. I I encourage anyone that hunts there to send back their Questionnaire and request that they stop this practice. We all pay more to have the ability to call to birds that are less pressured. I believe 3 hunts will ruin this great hunt.
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    Goulds in 31

    After gathering 17 bonus points, I drew this tag! I have never been there but I was extremely tired of waiting. It is crazy to me that even with 17 points, I could only draw the second hunt. There are only 3 tags on each hunt, so it was tough to get drawn but I am so glad I did. This was the only tag I was certain to draw by the numbers. I am an avid spring hunter, 15 years on San Carlos and several hunts on public lands. I have harvested over 25 birds during spring hunts. If anyone has any information on the bird population, areas to hunt, and places to start, I would really appreciate and direction/guidance you may have to offer. I want to shoot this bird with my bow, but will not eat this tag. Very dedicated to achieving the Arizona Slam with my bow. I have heard that game and fish has trapped birds here, and some years the numbers are down. Any help would be great.
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