rossislider

I don't think anyone was hating on it. It is just that anytime anyone comments or asks questions about a bull or buck antlers, the "you can't eat the horns" guys come out of the woodwork to let you know what an evolved (dare I say "woke") hunter they are. Congrats to the hunter, I am sure he is happy with this bull. He should be if it met his goals for the hunt. If I drew the once in 10,000+ hunter's lifetime raffle tag (since I won't be buying an auction tag anytime soon), I'd be taking it up to the last day holding out for a 400"+ bull, especially if I had hired one of the big outfitters in the state. For the amount of money he likely spent, he could have bought a whole lot of beef. So I don't buy the "can't eat the antlers" argument in these (or most any) situation. Regardless, it doesn't mean the rest of us can't or shouldn't be able to discuss it. I think the size of this bull makes for interesting conversation about the current droughted state of our wildlife, raffle and auctions tags, etc.

Just answered my own question. Not a bad deal either way.

I can't imagine that stuff would hold up well in a dog run, especially due to smell. But I am curious to hear opinions of people who know and are not just making assumptions.

Yeah, my thoughts as well. I've been hoping to see pictures of other angles since it was posted last week. But appears substantially smaller. Maybe the drought or the hunter found one he liked too much to pass up?

Me buy. I send you money. $2000. You keep $500 for trouble. Send me back $1500. Where to these guys keep coming from?!?!

Left-over 33 muzzleloader was all but a guarantee until 2-3 years ago when the social media crowd started posting and sharing the heck out of the left-over list. Things changed over night. Went from all of my buddies who applied getting one to maybe 1 in 10. It gets worse each year as the same guys are applying plus an additional 500 new guys who also just had "the same bright idea".

Andrewmilich, did you have any luck?

I asked about this a couple of years ago because the follow up lists after the initial day showed tags still available, but I still didn't get one and knew they received my application on day one. The lady I talked to at Game and Fish told me that they were all gone on day one, but because they have to be entered in manually (paper apps) it can take a few days to get everything entered into the computer. So while the updated left over lists may still show tags available, in actuality, they already belong to someone, but have not yet been entered into the computer.

I haven't driven one, but been a passenger in a couple of different ones on multiple hunts on some very rough roads at high and load speeds. My opinion, they live up to the hype. Honestly, they far surpassed my expectations. They ruined my F150 4x4 XLT for me. But since a Raptor won't be in my price range anytime soon, I'll dream about one and be happy with what I have.

😒 My kid has an elk tag that week. Just don't buy anything till you have that tag in hand. Don't say I didn't give you a heads us. But sincerely wish you luck. You and the other 5000 guys that suddenly had the 33 muzzleloader epiphany that 10,000 other guys had before you over the past few years.

If you are thinking about it based on left over tag numbers in 33, save your money. Looks like there are a ton, but like with all other LO tags, word is out. About 10,000 guys now apply for these LO muzzleloader these days. It sucks! Used to be easy to pick one up. Now they are as hard to get as the premium draw tags.

I'm calling BS! At least 30 other guys off camera somewhere. 😉

Fly to Hawaii and watch the game on TV there. You will probably spend about the same amount.

Curious, what is the verdict?

Great info, thanks! I'll look into these options. Please keep the info coming.