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It’s more than that. They report bases size each horn, length of each horn, overall width, overall score and age. So yeah, with let’s say the 4 biggest rams in an area, all unique and different sizes in different ways, some broomed on the left, others on the right, one super long, one thin on mass, I have been able to tell in this situation, confirmed eventually by pictures. But the less reliable the measurements, well you get the idea. Also for records sake, it would be nice to rely on a 162 being 162 and not really 165. The whole premise of score in the first place is a consistent, comparable measuring system not dependent on time and place, otherwise let’s just go back to subjective small, medium, large, giant and call it good. I know not everybody is interested in scores and the nuances of the accuracy and comparisons on game, but I think it’s pretty interesting and fun.

Trying to get a feel of which rams may have been taken in a unit that I have an inventory of most of the mature rams. But that has proven difficult with shaky scores, among other reason:)

What is everyone's experience with the accuracy of the department's scoring? Up in Region 3 its kind of a local joke since they have had alot of turnover in recent years and are always lower than registered B&C scorers get. I know every office and scorer has to be different. Someone said if you had a score sheet done and signed by someone certified that they have accepted that before, anyone seen that?

Youth deer for the kids. Any sheep hits yet?

This is from the agenda for the board meeting later this week to be held in Kingman:

IMG_9838.mov Was another hot weekend on the youth hunt, not as bad as last weekend but still toasty! Can’t get dang pics to upload… IMG_9847.mov

Supposedly it all started with a politician’s friend who didn’t like the off-roading and land destruction near Sedona.

Has this already been discussed here? I haven't been able to find the thread. Supposedly this is already signed into law? When was/is it affective? I'm confused because it says you now have to have a drivers license to drive OHV anywhere in the state of AZ, but there are also areas that make is sound like people between the ages of 12-16 can drive but I can't tell when/where that is allowed since in a later paragraph it says you have to have a drivers license? Also, it seems to say that people UNDER 12 can NEVER drive an OHV, which seems to include all off-highway vehicles and adds in dirt bikes. Am I missing something here or do I need to sell my toys my 5 kids are fond of driving? haha 6. "Off-highway vehicle": 26 (a) Means a motorized vehicle that is operated primarily off of 27 highways and that is designed, modified or purpose-built primarily for 28 recreational nonhighway all-terrain travel. 29 (b) Includes a tracked or wheeled vehicle, utility vehicle 30 RECREATIONAL OR UTILITY SIDE-BY-SIDE VEHICLE, all-terrain vehicle, 31 motorcycle, four-wheel drive vehicle DIRT BIKE, dune buggy, sand rail, 32 amphibious vehicle, ground effects or air cushion vehicle and any other 33 means of land transportation deriving motive power from a source other 34 than muscle or wind. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS SUBDIVISION, "DIRT BIKE" 35 MEANS A LIGHTWEIGHT MOTORCYCLE THAT IS DESIGNED FOR USE ON ROUGH TERRAIN, 36 INCLUDING UNSURFACED ROADS OR TRACKS. 37 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24777585-sb1567s

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Nice! Way to get after it. Love it up there.

R12-4-319 says right in it that you are allowed to fly up until 48 hours before if the only other hunts going on are special non-permit tag hunts from R12-4-115. Since the elk hunts up there are issued under R12-4-115, it would be legal to do, at least under the current circumstances and laws. Not sure about the classification of the elk hunt back when this incident happened, maybe that is where he is in trouble, I think the elk hunt a few years ago was initially under a different classification and was a draw?

Anyone know how the archery Kaibab hunt has gone? Were guys seeing alot of bucks? Are there alot of bucks in the newer burn that people are hunting or still more action in the old burn up top?

My buddy called GandF and they said radio use is not affected. I wonder who's idea it was to ban hearing devices. Tons of people use hearing aids to hear normally, which obviously can't be against the law, but they are able to turn them up, impossible to enforce sound level on them. I don't see hearing magnification as much of a help, but then again, I've never tried it. If you are in a tree stand you could hear something walking in a little earlier? Doesn't seem like that big of an advantage.