firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 Also, I don't do MIL, I do MOA. At 600 (150 yard zero), I dialed 10 MOA and was spot on, also using Strelok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STOMP442 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 Also, for what it's worth... I just got of the phone with Gunwerks questioning about barrel life. Craig told me their shooting school rifles are lasting 2500-300 rounds. Are they nitriding the barrels? So you are saying you see pressure at 2950 with the 180 hybrid and 71gr of powder. Safe in your rifle and accurate. I have a 6.5-06AI pushing 140s at 3180fps and 59gr of powder, safe and accurate in my rifle. My 6.5 has much less case capacity than the 26 offers but velocities are similar lets look at real world data and compare. Lance do your thing and run the numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willhunt4coues Report post Posted November 18, 2014 Thats why I like the Creedmoor. I am running 41.4 and 41.8 gn of H4350, 140 gn Berger and getting 2800 fps (fast enough for me) and a lot cheaper for reloading. I love the faster guns but I would be changing barrels every 6 months as much as I shoot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 Also, for what it's worth... I just got of the phone with Gunwerks questioning about barrel life. Craig told me their shooting school rifles are lasting 2500-300 rounds. Are they nitriding the barrels? So you are saying you see pressure at 2950 with the 180 hybrid and 71gr of powder. Safe in your rifle and accurate. I have a 6.5-06AI pushing 140s at 3180fps and 59gr of powder, safe and accurate in my rifle. My 6.5 has much less case capacity than the 26 offers but velocities are similar lets look at real world data and compare. Lance do your thing and run the numbers. Slightly flattened primers, but no sticky bolt or extractor marks at 71gr Retumbo. But, at 73, very flat primers and sticky bolt. They use H1000, which I've actually yet to play around with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 Wow, that 6.5-06 is flat out impressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted November 18, 2014 Seems like the 7LRM + 180 grain bullet is custom made for H1000 or maybe RL25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STOMP442 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 Wow, that 6.5-06 is flat out impressive. Yes it is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted November 18, 2014 Jeff, Gunwerks uses h1000, buddy of mine who has a similar wildcat used US 869 & RL 33 with success. I loaded some US 869, and it showed potential, but used about 10 more grains of powder for about the same speed (+/- about 50fps) and a noticeable amount more recoil. Plus, its not a temperature insensitive powder like Retumbo and H1000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
308Nut Report post Posted November 18, 2014 Lance, Please run the numbers again. The energy values are way off...Referring to post 29 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
308Nut Report post Posted November 18, 2014 As far as the 26 nosler, my opinion is simple. It would have been a decent option before the era of affordable laser range finders. It's only real quality is a ultra flat trajectory, which is of much less importance today than it was 25 years ago. Now with reliable rangefinding, it's better to have better throat/bore stability/consistency for more quality trigger time and less load adjustment and time waiting on new barrels. Sure with heavier than 130 grain pills windage can be improved but a few less inches at a grand doesn't take the place of quality, consistent trigger time. I'm sure it's life is shorter than many think. My guess would be that you would develop a load and enjoy it for a couple hundred rounds at best before you noticed pressures going up due to a very heat checked and eroded throat. Time to set back and make load adjustments. Enjoy for another 100-200 rounds at best. Repeat. Then it'll start happening every 50 rounds...sure we can milk it for 1000+ rounds but not without additional headaches, expenses and down time. For a 26 cal, run with a 6.5x47L up to 6.5-06 and be happy, the 26 nosler will make you miserable if you're serious about shooting and practicing. For the guy going to buy 4 boxes of ammo, sight in, check the zero once a year and hunt a few times a year, it could be an ok choice. That said, this is a long range section and that kind of trigger time and long range shooting don't go hand in hand. Just my opinion, M 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites