Coues Archer Report post Posted August 29, 2016 Hello guys, so I purchased all the equipment needed to start reloading my own ammo. Ive sized my cartridges at 2.045 which is the standard for .243 brass. I had one question regarding the powder. I am using RETUMBO which looks like a really bulky powder, the starting suggested powder is 46.0 gr.. My only question is that when I put the powder into the cartridge it is filled pretty close to the top of the casing. when I seeded the bullet into the case it literally hits the powder.. Is this normal?? I'm so used to factory ammo which has alot of space for powder within the cartridge. Please give me your feed back on what you guys have experienced with this powder/load; and if its safe to shoot. According to my reloading manuel it is! All specs are good my OAL = 2.760 I have seeded each bullet to 2.765 which is a .15 JUMP from the lans of my rifle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Couzer Report post Posted August 29, 2016 Yes some loads will have a compaction load (a load where the bullet is seated into the powder leaving no space) be careful to make sure that it calls for this and that your scale is calibrated correct. If overloaded it might be a bad deal. Can you post a pic of your reloading manual with the info? Reloading Tip as well when loading, only keep one powder out on the bench. Never leave various types out, to easy to get mixed up 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sherman Report post Posted August 29, 2016 I don't see where that powder is for a 105 gr a max in Hornaday manual #9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Couzer Report post Posted August 29, 2016 I found it on their online reloading data but looking about a compaction load? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues Archer Report post Posted August 29, 2016 The reloading handbook I am using is the "Modern Reloading" Second Edition Richard Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues Archer Report post Posted August 29, 2016 Here is a pick of the reloading data. The brass I'am using is Federal brass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Couzer Report post Posted August 29, 2016 Ok yes you should be good to go, I just over looked the data. If you look again you can see the "C" next to the 49.0. C=Compression load But lance has absolutely great info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues Archer Report post Posted August 29, 2016 Also the Rate of twist I'm using is 1:9 twist. Hornady suggests that 1:9 twist is the optimal twist for 105 AMAX bullets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues Archer Report post Posted August 29, 2016 Thank you, Vowel! So I should be good to go correct? And Lance; How is it that 48.0 gr is at 108% MAX if 49.0 gr. is the highest I can reload? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted August 29, 2016 I shoot a 100 grain game king with 42 grains of IMR 4350. Retumbo wouldn't be my first powder choice. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Couzer Report post Posted August 29, 2016 Thank you, Vowel! So I should be good to go correct? And Lance; How is it that 48.0 gr is at 108% MAX if 49.0 gr. is the highest I can reload? If all your info is correct I would say you are good. Always start out with the lowest grn in powder when shooting and look for pressure signs as you go up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues Archer Report post Posted August 29, 2016 Okay thank you Vowel! One more question. Why would Lance suggest to neck size down to 2.035 when the powder is high already as is at 2.045. I mean it just doesn't seem logical to me that I would shorten my overall length of casing. If I shortened it to that length it would yield less space hence making more pressure wouldn't it?? Idk just seems a bit far fetched considering the situation with brass space. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Couzer Report post Posted August 29, 2016 The books generally recommend a 0.020 - 0.010 off the max case length so trimming is not needed as frequently after each firing of the cartridge. If you start out at 2.045 then you will need to trim your brass before your next reload. The brass will most likely stretch to 2.046+ when fired. If so you will need to trim it back to at least 2.045, but as the books recommend go at least 2.035. 0.010 is not much, it should not effect the powder capacity of what your doing. Lance can probably chime in here, much more knowledge than me by far! I enjoy reading and learning from his post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WampusCat Report post Posted August 29, 2016 Why would Lance suggest to neck size down to 2.035 when the powder is high already as is at 2.045. I mean it just doesn't seem logical to me that I would shorten my overall length of casing. If I shortened it to that length it would yield less space hence making more pressure wouldn't it?? Idk just seems a bit far fetched considering the situation with brass space. He did not suggest neck sizing down! He recommended trimming to length and it is not far fetched at all. The nature of the shape of the 243 shoulder will allow the brass to stretch or "flow" when fired. In fact it will do this more so than other cartridges with sharper shoulder angles. Lance was trying to save you more worker later by taking care of it now. You will still need to trim later. If you are trying to increase case capacity by allowing a longer neck you are fighting a losing battle. Are you set on Retumbo? While Retumbo may work, there are many other powders that are better suited to the case capacity of your 243. Lance eluded to this earlier as well. This is especially true if you are worried about crunching the kernels in your compressed load. H-4350, H4831, and RL-17 or even H-1000 might be suited better to your goals. How long is your barrel? Hello guys, so I purchased all the equipment needed to start reloading my own ammo. All specs are good my OAL = 2.760 I have seeded each bullet to 2.765 which is a .15 JUMP from the lans of my rifle. I am a bit confused by this. If you seated your bullets to 2.765 how is your OAL 2.760? How did you measure the distance to the lands of your chamber to know you have a .15 jump? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites