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More than likely a mistake on the app. Thank God for point guard. There are still good bucks in 11m and they keep getting better since it went to a draw but still not one deer in 11m is worth 17 points. 160-180 bucks are doable if you work hard and ones pushing the magic number do happen but the genetics just arnt there for anything better than that.

One guy burned something like 17 deer points for 11m archery a year or so ago. Don't understand some people's logic.

I think everyone has pretty much hit the nail on the head. Some change is needed for the deer population in 11m. When 11m went to a draw, it was not based on any science or conservation strategy. G&F were just running damage control on a unit that surrounds a very liberal town, and when the number of deer running around neighborhoods with arrows sticking out of them increased, I think they tried to fix the problem before some ludicrous ballot initiative or something was purposed by the libs in this town. Flagstaff has seen crazy growth the last few years and the amount of college students in this town is staggering. 11m used to see 1000 or more deer hunters before it went to a draw in August and reducing the tags to 120 defiantly changed the dynamic of deer here. One little talked about benefit of hunting metro units is it kind of puts a little fear into them and keeps them out of residential areas and off of roadways. To me it seems like deer strikes on roads have increased around town and might be a contributing factor in creating this hunt.

Haha. I was waiting for this to be brought up. Don't know if this is here to stay or not. 7 got the revolving late archery tag this year and I don't know if going to be like those hunts that rotate units or what. I kind of think it's here to stay. If it's dry it could be an awsome hunt. Hunting deer in the rut/prerut in a unit that never sees a gun hunt.

I was lucky enough to fill my tag on my first javalina on Saturday. I have been some what jinxed with them. I live in flagstaff and to hunt them I have some what of a jaunt. I will say I have seen quite a number up here but never when I have an otc tag in my pocket. With my first tag in a good javi unit a few years back, practically the whole unit was inaccessible due to flash flooding. The following year I applied for the same unit and popped 4 tires on the first day of the hunt. I hunted 37b this year in january and saw over 40 muley and coues bucks, but not one javalina, so I didn't really have high hopes for this 19b HAM hunt. The plan for the morning was to glass south facing slopes but snow and high winds made it difficult and needless to say they were not moving in those conditions. By about 11, my brother in law and I decided to try and search some thicker valleys and came across a big group of pigs. He was determined to get one with his bow, so the plan was for him to shoot one, and as soon as he shot, I would follow up on a second one with my pistol. The plan went moderately well and after he shot a big old broken tusked sow, I followed up on a younger boar. I am glad my bad luck streak was finally broken and am now addicted to these little stick pigs!

Don't remember for sure but probably soon after these regs, 2000- 2001. Because 7 was split into 3 units originally. Anyone else remember hunting 7 metro before it was changed to 11m?

Hunted 37b up toward picketpost for 3 days. Saw tons of deer but no javi.

Was driving in 5bn yesterday and came across big wide 3x3 chasing does in the middle of a road. Almost had to bump him with my truck to get him out of the road. Had no care that I was there. Will be in 37b next weekend chasing them. Hopefully the rut is going as good down there as it is up here.

Oh ya. SCI has a handgun record book. The full book is only viewable online if you are a member I believe but I think you can view all the top 10s not as a member.

The first gun is a sporterized 03a3 in 30-06. W/ weaver scope. $275 The second gun is a Swiss vetterli in 41 Swiss. Has been converted to center fire. $150 Located in flagstaff Nate 9286079588

Sorry for the sideways pic. The first week of the hunt was tough. We still got on elk but there was no vocalization. Second week was better. Bulls were talking and fighting but still not coming to calls. Called in a spike the last morning and was able to but it broadside of my buddy at about 10 yards but he was unable to get a shot. We the decided a hail marry and drive across town and try and hunt for about an hour before we had to get to work. We instantly got into some bull fighting and shot this bull at 37 yards. My advice for 11m is don't get stuck in one area. Rutting can stink in one area and be on fire in another. Be mobile. Someone mentioned A1. If I was hunting right now I would consider following that advice.

Here is the bull we were able to shoot the last day of the first 11m hunt.

Take a drive around SP crater. Couple nice bucks between it and 89. Still about 6 or so years from drawing the tag so I don't mind giving the info.

I have camtrip, briarpatch and a whole bunch of homemade traps that I've picked up over the years. My personal preference is the camtrip cages. Sturdy, light weight and simple.

That whole antler was loose and you could move it. When I took it to the taxidermist he said the pedicle was broken, probably from injury, not genetics. Still able to grow and antler though and the weight pulled it down as it grew since it wasn't connected to the skull.