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2022 GMC Sierra 3500 AT4

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Jeez.  Unreal.  I remeber when TOL trucks were $16-18K.  No offense to poster...just friggin' shocking.

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47 minutes ago, sjvcon said:

Jeez.  Unreal.  I remeber when TOL trucks were $16-18K.  No offense to poster...just friggin' shocking.

1990?

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2 hours ago, Hunting Fool said:

Got the first payment and said heck no

Nope just looking to get back into an F450

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And then there is the annual Vehicle License Tax, like a thirteenth payment each year!

Pretty truck though.

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7 hours ago, Coues'n said:

Nope just looking to get back into an F450

For payload difference?   If so what's the difference.... or what other reasons. Just curious as I have driven an f450 to a f650 in about 15 years, so not sure of their difference as of lately .

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Chevy vs Ford. Also different suspension, and not necessarily the same capacity, typically considered a 1 ton class 3 with less hauling capacity vs. 1.5 ton class 4 with greater hauling capacity. Ford typically has a stiffer ride, feel. Also a matter of preference, accustom.

At one time the Ford frames were more rigid on their HD's. Different drivetrains. Etc.

I have older, (2000) F250 and (2001)Sierra 2500. Definite differences, equal class 2.

Easy to Google each and read the differences as far as weight, haul capacities.

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16 hours ago, PRDATR said:

1990?

No.  Earlier than that.  But in 1990 you could get a Loaded to the Gills Chevy for about $22K.  In 2005 I bought a loaded Yukon for around $38K out the door brand new.  heck ... in 2007 I bought a 1 year old Dodge Ram 3/4 4x4 Cummins with 20K miles for $33K out the door at a dealer.  It's just crazy to me how prices have skyrocketed when wages haven't moved in step...guess it has always been that way though.  I have a pretty dang good job/career and I can't imagine spending almost $100K on a truck...then I see these young kids driving them around lifted, decked out another $20K beyond factory.  Just shocking to an old fart like me I guess.  Like I said ... no offense, and good luck with the sale (and it will sell).

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50 minutes ago, sjvcon said:

No.  Earlier than that.  But in 1990 you could get a Loaded to the Gills Chevy for about $22K.  In 2005 I bought a loaded Yukon for around $38K out the door brand new.  heck ... in 2007 I bought a 1 year old Dodge Ram 3/4 4x4 Cummins with 20K miles for $33K out the door at a dealer.  It's just crazy to me how prices have skyrocketed when wages haven't moved in step...guess it has always been that way though.  I have a pretty dang good job/career and I can't imagine spending almost $100K on a truck...then I see these young kids driving them around lifted, decked out another $20K beyond factory.  Just shocking to an old fart like me I guess.  Like I said ... no offense, and good luck with the sale (and it will sell).

They’re buying those trucks with 15 year loans and are in debit up to their eyeballs! 

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1 hour ago, AZHUNTER05 said:

They’re buying those trucks with 15 year loans and are in debit up to their eyeballs! 

Jesus, 15 year car notes.  I could not imagine paying 15 years on a liability.  

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1 hour ago, AZHUNTER05 said:

They’re buying those trucks with 15 year loans and are in debit up to their eyeballs! 

A lot are gonna owe 80k on 40k cars in a couple years. 

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20 minutes ago, Hunting Fool said:

Jesus, 15 year car notes.  I could not imagine paying 15 years on a liability.  

Bro, what!? You don’t want to be in a 15 year note paying interest on a depreciating asset? Not very American of you. 

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24 minutes ago, trphyhntr said:

Bro, what!? You don’t want to be in a 15 year note paying interest on a depreciating asset? Not very American of you. 

I guess I am not very American.  I'm still old school and save and pay cash for toys and trucks.  What's the big hurry to go into debt.  heck I drove my 06 Chevy for 15 years and finally bought a new truck earlier this year and paid cash.

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