High end Rifle question

[MULEPACKHUNTER]

If you were looking for a semi or custom high end rifle say in the 3400.00 range which would you prefer???

1.) Brand new rifle test fired 3400.00

2.) Brand new rifle with load development 3600.00

3.) Brand new rifle with load development and dies powder etc. 4500.00

[yotebuster]

Is this a trick question?  I think the last option would be the obvious?

[MULEPACKHUNTER]

Maybe it was,,,

I figured it was obvious with each option the price goes up.

Myself I want to do the development myself and have few rounds shot out of my new gun vs rifle with 50 rnds or more fired already.

Some dont reload so option 3 doesnt work well.

 

[HuntHarder]

1. For me.  I typically put together my semi customs myself tho.  I don't love load development, but don't hate it.  Really you need atleast a 100 rounds thru a gun before I even start looking hard at load finalizing.  

[firstcoueswas80]

1 and 2 are reasonably priced, option 3 takes too big of a jump for me. Dies and powder and its $900 more than option 2?

 

Plus I do my own load development and reloading, so reslly just an observation on price, but for $200, I would pay that for complete load development.

[Couzer]

Load develop is everything, if it dont shoot good, that $3,400 gun is a paper weight. $200 more is cheap for load development. I would spend the extra $200 myself. I have more than that into each rifle loading myself figuring out loads, not counting my time.

[MULEPACKHUNTER]

2 hours ago, firstcoueswas80 said:

1 and 2 are reasonably priced, option 3 takes too big of a jump for me. Dies and powder and its $900 more than option 2?

 

Plus I do my own load development and reloading, so reslly just an observation on price, but for $200, I would pay that for complete load development.

The big jump is a guess, Dies, powder, bullets, Primers, Brass, trips to the range, time reloading. 

[MULEPACKHUNTER]

3 hours ago, HuntHarder said:

1. For me.  I typically put together my semi customs myself tho.  I don't love load development, but don't hate it.  Really you need atleast a 100 rounds thru a gun before I even start looking hard at load finalizing.  

I think barrels move over time but I expect results right out of the gate myself, Ive never seen a rifle shoot off and then come in after a bunch of rounds. I do see some tweaking down the road but lately using a barrel tuner I just adjust there and can tighten back up. Usually anyway. Sometimes its needing a better cleaning cycle.

[PRDATR]

I've never had a rifle that shot better after 100 rounds. That's just completely silly to say that. Whether it was a rifle bought solely for competition or hunting.

[firstcoueswas80]

49 minutes ago, MULEPACKHUNTER said:

The big jump is a guess, Dies, powder, bullets, Primers, Brass, trips to the range, time reloading. 

Well, if the rifle comes with load development in option 2, then you made my point for me. You're including all of that in option 2, but option 3 is $900 more with outlined minimal additions over option 2. 

[Crazymonkey]

Load development  is part of the fun of a new rifle for me . It's also  expensive  with  powder ,primers,and different  bullets. I usually  sell what doesn't  work if I'm not going  to need the bullets or powder  for another project  . Your prices are reasonable  given what's included.  Sometimes  I'd like it if my rifles had the loads figured  out . I don't  have alot of free time so it can take me alot longer  than most to get a rifle where I'd like it.

[MULEPACKHUNTER]

1 hour ago, firstcoueswas80 said:

Well, if the rifle comes with load development in option 2, then you made my point for me. You're including all of that in option 2, but option 3 is $900 more with outlined minimal additions over option 2. 

OK go buy all those items and tell me how much it is? option 2 comes with data only, I already have equipment so costs me nothing but time.

Primers 120

size die 120

seat die 120

brass 100

powder 50

bullets 50

load development 200

plus tax and shipping its pretty close and i was just guessing. 

More looking for what would be the kicker that option 2 did for you. sounds like its worth it to get some load data and groups to help the sale.

[MULEPACKHUNTER]

11 minutes ago, Crazymonkey said:

Load development  is part of the fun of a new rifle for me . It's also  expensive  with  powder ,primers,and different  bullets. I usually  sell what doesn't  work if I'm not going  to need the bullets or powder  for another project  . Your prices are reasonable  given what's included.  Sometimes  I'd like it if my rifles had the loads figured  out . I don't  have alot of free time so it can take me alot longer  than most to get a rifle where I'd like it.

Ya that's what I run into most of the time, guys just want it either ready to go or shoot factory ammo well and hit the hills. Guys that are reloading are building prefits or just getting chamber done and building from there.

[firstcoueswas80]

Every "load development" package Ive ever see comes with at least 50, if not 100 rounds. 

 

The $200 for proven accurate load recipe is worth it. As you outlined, the buyer doesn't have to do that. Just purchase the pieces and make the duplicate load. 

[Crazymonkey]

27 minutes ago, MULEPACKHUNTER said:

Ya that's what I run into most of the time, guys just want it either ready to go or shoot factory ammo well and hit the hills. Guys that are reloading are building prefits or just getting chamber done and building from there.

Most factory  ammo is not consistent  enough  for shooting  out past say 3 or 4 hundred  yds . The es  is to high . Seen a few boxes of 7 prc run over 100 fps spread last year helping  on a champ  elk hunt.  Two maybe 3 rds were OK then it went to 💩. From box to box same lot it was terrible.