yotebuster Report post Posted Sunday at 06:31 PM 4 hours ago, wildwoody said: the United states of amnesia, did we forget inflation and gas prices were hire in 22 with Biden because he wanted us to buy electric cars. I guess im missing something besides Trump derangement syndrome. Not saying you have it. But I can't see how this is worse then what the last 4 years were. Just me. Just because we had one sh!tty president don’t mean we needed to elect a second one right after him. Just because one sucked doesn’t make the other one sucking any better. We’ve gotta get together as a country and get back to middle ground. I think there’s a lot more of us out there then CNN and FOX news will allow us to believe 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Couzer Report post Posted Sunday at 07:34 PM I’m glad to have Trump back in office. I may not agree with every decision he makes, but I do believe he’s focused on putting America first. In my opinion, many European countries and Canada are struggling because of excessive government control, taxes, fees, and restrictions on the free market. I was in Canada a few weeks ago, and it was eye-opening to see how much things have changed. I fully support Trump and the direction he’s trying to take the country. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntHarder Report post Posted Sunday at 08:53 PM 2 hours ago, yotebuster said: Just because we had one sh!tty president don’t mean we needed to elect a second one right after him. Just because one sucked doesn’t make the other one sucking any better. We’ve gotta get together as a country and get back to middle ground. I think there’s a lot more of us out there then CNN and FOX news will allow us to believe Do you feel Harris would have been better at this point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idgaf Report post Posted Sunday at 09:14 PM 17 minutes ago, HuntHarder said: Do you feel Harris would have been better at this point? These days. I think we would be in the exact same position. Something is coercing our leadership to go against their beliefs to do the unpopular and stick it to taxpayers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
backcountry_brad Report post Posted Sunday at 10:36 PM 3 hours ago, Couzer said: I’m glad to have Trump back in office. I may not agree with every decision he makes, but I do believe he’s focused on putting America first. In my opinion, many European countries and Canada are struggling because of excessive government control, taxes, fees, and restrictions on the free market. I was in Canada a few weeks ago, and it was eye-opening to see how much things have changed. I fully support Trump and the direction he’s trying to take the country. You misspelled Israel first 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flatlander Report post Posted Sunday at 11:47 PM 9 hours ago, wildwoody said: the United states of amnesia, did we forget inflation and gas prices were hire in 22 with Biden because he wanted us to buy electric cars. I guess im missing something besides Trump derangement syndrome. Not saying you have it. But I can't see how this is worse then what the last 4 years were. Just me. Look, I hated Biden. I have voted for Trump and recognize him as better than the alternative. But I also don’t see a need to stroke him because of the color of his tie. The inflation incurred under Biden was largely the result of Covid stimulus passed under Trump. When Biden passed the fourth after his inauguration it pushed the needle to red, but it was just making a bad situation worse. Every president since Reagan has been progressively less fiscally responsible than their predecessor. He’s not any different. He just talks trash to the same people we do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yotebuster Report post Posted yesterday at 01:53 PM 17 hours ago, HuntHarder said: Do you feel Harris would have been better at this point? That’s the problem. You feel like it’s got to be one or the other. There are other options and that sentiment you carry is what’s driving this country apart as those two options are both pandering so hard to the far left and far right that neither is what’s best for this country. We need a return to center, and the first party of the big two to get there is gonna win it. I was convinced it would be the left seeing they had to become more moderate, but now I’m pretty confident Trump and his associates have gotten so far out of touch with the middle ground voters that the Republican Party might realign in the post Trump era. It just depends on how many mindless Trumpers are left out there and if the actual Republican Party can win it back. If they can’t, it’ll be a blue wave for the foreseeable future. EDIT: I didn’t answer your question, no I don’t think things would be better with Harris. I can’t think of a single thing that Trump has ACTUALLY done that had benefited me personally (this sounds selfish but we all have to address how we feel from our point of view). Most of my investments are Ag and Oil and gas related as that’s where I live, and he’s absolutely devastated both of those economies. I know with gas over $4 you’d think that oil and gas would be doing great, but things are just in a standstill right now in the oil field as they don’t trust him at all to not completely dump them about the time things level off. Interest is way to high for investment into such an up and down market. Trump yet again raised my taxes personally. In 2020 it cost my wife and I over $30k directly due to his corporate tax breaks as he laid it heavy on the upper middle earners to make up for it. His tariffs have done zero good, DOGE did absolutely nothing (Elon and his fall out is the obvious proof of that, one thought things were gonna happen and the other knew they weren’t but did it as yet another publicity stunt). My taxes stayed level under Biden. Oil and gas and Ag ALWAYS do better under a democrat. I’ve always considered myself moderate but fiscally conservative, but if this is the new conservative, I need to realign my priorities I guess as spending has only increased. National debt has increased at a rate that’s unprecedented, and I’m paying more and more every year we have Trump in the office to fund it all. I’m f’ing sick of it. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HuntHarder Report post Posted yesterday at 05:20 PM It did have to be Harris or Trump. Fundamentally changing that would be great, but it's a huge undertaking. I'd take a good hard look at your investments, if you are down in this market. You are too concentrated in 1 or 2 fields, especially if you knew, historically that Ag and Oil do poorly under republican presidents. 250k income is considered top 10% in the US. I struggle at reducing my tax liability myself and blame myself for not taking advantage of all the "loopholes." I'm sure your example maybe included loss of write offs or something but overall income tax rates really haven't moved a whole bunch over the last 8 years. Here's $500k income as well Doge had such high hopes and good intentions but imo, got destroyed by special interests and corruption. Doge came in waaay to hard and again, thought it was going to be much easier than it actually is. So much red tape, processes and procedures to follow. National debt has been extreme trash under all presidents except Clinton. Amazing how he was actually able to operate under a surplus. Maybe we, as a country, should take a hard look at some of his policies. Extreme right and extreme left are where we are at as a country. It sucks and I don't like it. I'd love to see a return to common middle ground. Everyone operates on a "give and inch and they will take a mile" mindset now. Maybe it's from past lessons learned, maybe it's from fear mongering, I do not know. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites