AZBIG10 Report post Posted 23 hours ago I don't know either party involved. It happened like I said before he won't do that again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4huntrs Report post Posted 23 hours ago 21 minutes ago, WHT_MTNMAN said: Did I read or watch it wrong?? from what I saw he wasn't even with the hunter??? So how would he know with an ABSOLUTE certainty that he shot from the road. He said he had moved to a different location to get another view of the deer. He never argued he didn’t know where the deer was shot from only that he didn’t understand the law pertaining to what defined a road. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idgaf Report post Posted 22 hours ago 53 minutes ago, TR0UBLE SH00TER said: That's disputable and it's also irrelevant to his charge. The law Mr. DeBaca broke is written clear as day. I've linked and listed it below. https://www.azleg.gov/arsDetail/?title=17 17-309. Violations; classification 16. Possess or transport any wildlife or parts of the wildlife that was unlawfully taken. It is relevant. if we are going off of the commission's own precedence. Not knowing was good enough for jed Larsen not to have his license revoked for the much greater crime of taking a trophy elk on the reservation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues247 Report post Posted 22 hours ago 13 minutes ago, idgaf said: It is relevant. if we are going off of the commission's own precedence. Not knowing was good enough for jed Larsen not to have his license revoked for the much greater crime of taking a trophy elk on the reservation. Even better is AZGFD decided to not even charge Jed. It was all federal. And he definitely knew the elk he possessed was illegal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heat Report post Posted 19 hours ago 7 hours ago, TR0UBLE SH00TER said: Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but facts are facts. Posting frivolous arguments to diminish those facts are obvious attempts at damage control. There's nothing shady, messy, corrupt or nefarious about charging and convicting a hunting guide for having an illegally taken animal in his vehicle. Hilarious! Damage control? Never met Nick Debaca, as if I care. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TR0UBLE SH00TER Report post Posted 18 hours ago 3 hours ago, idgaf said: It is relevant. if we are going off of the commission's own precedence. Not knowing was good enough for jed Larsen not to have his license revoked for the much greater crime of taking a trophy elk on the reservation. I wasn't aware of that case, but I did just read the thread on here. Seems that maybe the commission has learned their lesson after that preposterous decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted 17 hours ago 4 hours ago, idgaf said: It is relevant. if we are going off of the commission's own precedence. Not knowing was good enough for jed Larsen not to have his license revoked for the much greater crime of taking a trophy elk on the reservation. Key phrase there. Elk on the reservation. AZGFD doesn’t have any jurisdiction on the reservation. It was the feds that let Jed Larson off so easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idgaf Report post Posted 17 hours ago 24 minutes ago, 654321 said: Key phrase there. Elk on the reservation. AZGFD doesn’t have any jurisdiction on the reservation. It was the feds that let Jed Larson off so easy. How do you think he got it off the reservation? My guess would be transport of illegally taken game. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idgaf Report post Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, TR0UBLE SH00TER said: I wasn't aware of that case, but I did just read the thread on here. Seems that maybe the commission has learned their lesson after that preposterous decision. Hopefully that is the case. The optics of it, is that they are showing favoritism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coues247 Report post Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, 654321 said: Key phrase there. Elk on the reservation. AZGFD doesn’t have any jurisdiction on the reservation. It was the feds that let Jed Larson off so easy. Possessing an elk on state land, killed illegally on the reservation, makes it just as illegal to possess. AZGFD had every opportunity to charge him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted 16 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Coues247 said: Possessing an elk on state land, killed illegally on the reservation, makes it just as illegal to possess. AZGFD had every opportunity to charge him. Was the elk in his possession or the clients Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, idgaf said: How do you think he got it off the reservation? My guess would be transport of illegally taken game. Did he take it off the Rez or client Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idgaf Report post Posted 16 hours ago 4 minutes ago, 654321 said: Did he take it off the Rez or client No, the client carried the elk by himself to the vehicle. I am sure they traveled separately and the client rented a truck, just so jed would not be held accountable for taking him to the reservation. When I pay 5 or 6 figures for an elk hunt. I want to make sure the guide watches me carry the elk. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted 16 hours ago 7 minutes ago, idgaf said: No, the client carried the elk by himself to the vehicle. I am sure they traveled separately and the client rented a truck, just so jed would not be held accountable for taking him to the reservation. When I pay 5 or 6 figures for an elk hunt. I want to make sure the guide watches me carry the elk. Is that what happened because I wasn’t there and never heard the story, you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatfishKev Report post Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, idgaf said: No, the client carried the elk by himself to the vehicle. I am sure they traveled separately and the client rented a truck, just so jed would not be held accountable for taking him to the reservation. When I pay 5 or 6 figures for an elk hunt. I want to make sure the guide watches me carry the elk. LMAO 🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
