Sky Island junkie Report post Posted May 10 The way all this Tacticool crap is marketed to us is hilarious. We had a manhunt in our area a dozen years ago and as luck would have it the meth head wound up on our patio. As he tried our front, back doors and various windows there was no working of actions. My wife stood there with my 870 wingmaster loaded with #6 shot and me with my 45 if the poor bastard were to make it in. The little stubby shotshells crack me up. Who thinks about recoil in a situation like this? Just my opinion 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted May 10 12 ga is my top choice as everyone in my house is or will be very familiar with them, and they could also be in the next room. That said, the revolver dependability of the Judge with five rounds of three-ball #000 buck shot I load isn't something to mess with. I've read the legal consequences of using hand loads is a topic to consider. My 12 ga coyote lead BB loads would be great also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazymonkey Report post Posted May 10 32 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: How many times have you pumped your shotgun in a home invasion and sent people running? You don’t have a round chambered in a life or death situation. Just don’t give advice anymore about self defense How many times have you drawn a gun in a defensive situation or to stop a threat to yourself or family? Probably not one time! If you ever do your going to spend a day at the station in cuffs . The police are going to take your guns and probably could be charged with brandishing. Rock salt rounds were the bean bag round of there day . Not lethal but enough to get the job done . They burn like heck once the penetrant the skin. Shoot to kill if you need to but know your going to spend some time in jail and it's going to cost you. If the sound of the shotgun has its intended effect you will not need to use it . But by all means use it if you need to defend yourself. To answer your question I've had need of my shotgun on two occasions once it was chambered with buck shot and bird in alternating rounds and the other just the rack and sight was enough . Spent a day at the station and 3 months getting my guns back . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted May 10 9 minutes ago, Crazymonkey said: How many times have you drawn a gun in a defensive situation or to stop a threat to yourself or family? Probably not one time! If you ever do your going to spend a day at the station in cuffs . The police are going to take your guns and probably could be charged with brandishing. Rock salt rounds were the bean bag round of there day . Not lethal but enough to get the job done . They burn like heck once the penetrant the skin. Shoot to kill if you need to but know your going to spend some time in jail and it's going to cost you. If the sound of the shotgun has its intended effect you will not need to use it . But by all means use it if you need to defend yourself. To answer your question I've had need of my shotgun on two occasions once it was chambered with buck shot and bird in alternating rounds and the other just the rack and sight was enough . Spent a day at the station and 3 months getting my guns back . More nonsense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Curtis Reed Report post Posted May 10 To the op, if you want a shotgun for home defense, buy a tried and true Remington 870 with a 18.5 barrel. Load it with buckshot. Slugs will over penetrate in a residential environment. Add a light and red dot for low light. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZAV8ER Report post Posted May 10 Remington 780 youth 20G. Load it with #2 lead and it's easy to handle. #2 at close range will hurt and in the face UGLY UGLY UGLY also not much structural damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sky Island junkie Report post Posted May 10 33 minutes ago, Crazymonkey said: How many times have you drawn a gun in a defensive situation or to stop a threat to yourself or family? Probably not one time! If you ever do your going to spend a day at the station in cuffs . The police are going to take your guns and probably could be charged with brandishing. Rock salt rounds were the bean bag round of there day . Not lethal but enough to get the job done . They burn like heck once the penetrant the skin. Shoot to kill if you need to but know your going to spend some time in jail and it's going to cost you. If the sound of the shotgun has its intended effect you will not need to use it . But by all means use it if you need to defend yourself. To answer your question I've had need of my shotgun on two occasions once it was chambered with buck shot and bird in alternating rounds and the other just the rack and sight was enough . Spent a day at the station and 3 months getting my guns back . Well the day they were looking for the guy in our area I actually had to go find him because BPs dogs couldn’t pick up his scent! (Thats a whole other level of absurdity) I simply walked out 100 yards and found the guy in the grass under a mesquite and of course shaking i brandished the 45. There were 3 agencies and probably 50 guys looking for him and nobody with BP, DPS or Cochise county ever even wanted to look at any of my guns. Honestly they all probably didn’t want to deal with me much at that point. It was a true case of just a bunch of Barney Fifes out here sadly! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShutYourLib Report post Posted May 10 38 minutes ago, Crazymonkey said: How many times have you drawn a gun in a defensive situation or to stop a threat to yourself or family? Probably not one time! If you ever do your going to spend a day at the station in cuffs . The police are going to take your guns and probably could be charged with brandishing. Rock salt rounds were the bean bag round of there day . Not lethal but enough to get the job done . They burn like heck once the penetrant the skin. Shoot to kill if you need to but know your going to spend some time in jail and it's going to cost you. If the sound of the shotgun has its intended effect you will not need to use it . But by all means use it if you need to defend yourself. To answer your question I've had need of my shotgun on two occasions once it was chambered with buck shot and bird in alternating rounds and the other just the rack and sight was enough . Spent a day at the station and 3 months getting my guns back . I dont even post very often, but I have so say that I became just a little dumber having just read that. Every post you’re making is making me wonder if you’re a Russian bot or something. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted May 10 1 hour ago, CouesPursuit said: 12 ga is my top choice as everyone in my house is or will be very familiar with them, and they could also be in the next room. That said, the revolver dependability of the Judge with five rounds of three-ball #000 buck shot I load isn't something to mess with. I've read the legal consequences of using hand loads is a topic to consider. My 12 ga coyote lead BB loads would be great also. Yeah im the sure the judge would hurt someone, if you could hit them with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sky Island junkie Report post Posted May 10 1 hour ago, Crazymonkey said: How many times have you drawn a gun in a defensive situation or to stop a threat to yourself or family? Probably not one time! If you ever do your going to spend a day at the station in cuffs . The police are going to take your guns and probably could be charged with brandishing. Rock salt rounds were the bean bag round of there day . Not lethal but enough to get the job done . They burn like heck once the penetrant the skin. Shoot to kill if you need to but know your going to spend some time in jail and it's going to cost you. If the sound of the shotgun has its intended effect you will not need to use it . But by all means use it if you need to defend yourself. To answer your question I've had need of my shotgun on two occasions once it was chambered with buck shot and bird in alternating rounds and the other just the rack and sight was enough . Spent a day at the station and 3 months getting my guns back . I do think that many don’t think of the repercussions if you do kill or wound someone especially outside when it may or may not be self defense. What shook me up a bit was when I read a story of a guy who shot an unarmed douche who broke into his house. No criminal charges but the family of the intruder sued him civilly. Dont remember the specifics but the whole ordeal but it cut deeply into his net worth defending himself. Scary stuff all the way around 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted May 10 3 hours ago, trphyhntr said: Yeah im the sure the judge would hurt someone, if you could hit them with it. More nonsense 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted May 10 18 minutes ago, CouesPursuit said: More nonsense You’re right. I should have said “might” hurt someone. The .410 would probably bounce off a human passed 15 feet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesPursuit Report post Posted May 10 6 minutes ago, trphyhntr said: You’re right. I should have said “might” hurt someone. The .410 would probably bounce off a human passed 15 feet You're better at trolling on CWT than you are for crappie, I'll give you that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted May 10 5 minutes ago, CouesPursuit said: You're better at trolling on CWT than you are for crappie, I'll give you that. I’m not trolling. You do you. It’s your life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites