TR0UBLE SH00TER Report post Posted January 16 Live meeting of the AZGFD Comission 1/16/2026 View the live stream here: https://www.azgfd.com/about-arizona-game-fish/commission-public-information/about-the-commission/commission-meeting-webcast/ View what's on the agenda here: https://www.azgfd.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/January-16-2026-Commission-Agenda.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigorange Report post Posted January 16 Keep us posted on the outcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZCoueser Report post Posted January 16 Koury had his license revoked for 5 yrs. Not sure about the others. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stanley Report post Posted January 16 David Koury - Hunting & fishing privileges revoked for 5 years. Nicholas Debaca - Hunting & fishing privileges revoked for 5 years. Both had a lawyer there advocating, and both were there and spoke. I'm not surprised by the outcome though, as they were both already convicted for the offenses in the courts. Seemed pretty forgone that their privileges would be suspended. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZCoueser Report post Posted January 16 The Debaca one was interesting to me. According to the attorney, Debaca wasn’t near the hunter who allegedly took a shot with his feet still on the road while prone, but had the cape afterwards to take to taxidermist. Hunter that allegedly had his feet in the road took a plea detail to testify against Debaca. Game was unlawfully taken because of the feet in the roadway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MogollonMan Report post Posted January 16 4 hours ago, stanley said: David Koury - Hunting & fishing privileges revoked for 5 years. Nicholas Debaca - Hunting & fishing privileges revoked for 5 years. Both had a lawyer there advocating, and both were there and spoke. I'm not surprised by the outcome though, as they were both already convicted for the offenses in the courts. Seemed pretty forgone that their privileges would be suspended. It was clear that anything said by either party or attorney was irrelevant. The outcome had been predetermined. I found it extremely interesting that Mr. Koury's attorney cited precedence of a seemingly more egregious violation of the same law where the guilty party was assigned education but no suspension. My main takeaways. The commission members are biased know-it-alls who are reinventing laws on the fly, and if you have shown yourself to be a highly successful guide or hunter, they are going to seek out any opportunity to make an example of you. Don't waste your time or money on attorneys or even bother going to the commission meeting. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MogollonMan Report post Posted January 16 8 minutes ago, AZCoueser said: The Debaca one was interesting to me. According to the attorney, Debaca wasn’t near the hunter who allegedly took a shot with his feet still on the road while prone, but had the cape afterwards to take to taxidermist. Hunter that allegedly had his feet in the road took a plea detail to testify against Debaca. Game was unlawfully taken because of the feet in the roadway. The guide is always going to be the bigger notch on the warden's belt. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdown Report post Posted January 16 That is surprising given the amount of guides that have been convicted of violating game laws in the last 15-20 years... they seem to uphold their responsibility so well.... sarcasm here... In my world there would be a lifetime ban for any guide convicted of a game law given the additional qualifications they must pass and status given to them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HNTNGUY Report post Posted January 16 1 hour ago, MogollonMan said: It was clear that anything said by either party or attorney was irrelevant. The outcome had been predetermined. I found it extremely interesting that Mr. Koury's attorney cited precedence of a seemingly more egregious violation of the same law where the guilty party assigned education but no suspension. My main takeaways. The commission members are biased know-it-alls who are reinventing laws on the fly, and if you have shown yourself to be a highly successful guide or hunter, they are going to seek out any opportunity to make an example of you. Don't waste your time or money on attorneys or even bother going to the commission meeting. I couldn't agree more. In my opinion it was 100% pre determined before they even presented to the commissioners. Not saying they were right or wrong but a waste of their time for even telling their side of the story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucafu1 Report post Posted January 16 2 hours ago, AZCoueser said: The Debaca one was interesting to me. According to the attorney, Debaca wasn’t near the hunter who allegedly took a shot with his feet still on the road while prone, but had the cape afterwards to take to taxidermist. Hunter that allegedly had his feet in the road took a plea detail to testify against Debaca. Game was unlawfully taken because of the feet in the roadway. Yeah, sounds like he got screwed. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted January 16 4 hours ago, MogollonMan said: It was clear that anything said by either party or attorney was irrelevant. The outcome had been predetermined. I found it extremely interesting that Mr. Koury's attorney cited precedence of a seemingly more egregious violation of the same law where the guilty party was assigned education but no suspension. My main takeaways. The commission members are biased know-it-alls who are reinventing laws on the fly, and if you have shown yourself to be a highly successful guide or hunter, they are going to seek out any opportunity to make an example of you. Don't waste your time or money on attorneys or even bother going to the commission meeting. These "highly successful guides or hunters" either pled guilty or were found guilty by a court of law. You don't end up in front of the commission any other way. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MogollonMan Report post Posted January 16 13 minutes ago, 654321 said: These "highly successful guides or hunters" either pled guilty or were found guilty by a court of law. You don't end up in front of the commission any other way. Man, you are the one who has been on these guys since the beginning. Don't pretend you don't have a personal axe to grind and weren't rubbing one out as the revocations weren't being announced. These court hearings are as suspicious as the commission hearings. Debaca was a perfect example. Sounds like the actual offender got off with a slap on the wrist for throwing Debaca under the bus. What a joke! Both Debaca and Koury got screwed because of who they are more than what they did. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted January 17 19 minutes ago, MogollonMan said: Man, you are the one who has been on these guys since the beginning. Don't pretend you don't have a personal axe to grind and weren't rubbing one out as the revocations weren't being announced. These court hearings are as suspicious as the commission hearings. Debaca was a perfect example. Sounds like the actual offender got off with a slap on the wrist for throwing Debaca under the bus. What a joke! Both Debaca and Koury got screwed because of who they are more than what they did. This site has never been guide friendly. Like Piranhas waiting for a goldfish to drop. So if a guy was prone with his feet on the road, was his body off the road? Or was he shooting across the road? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted January 17 1 hour ago, MogollonMan said: Man, you are the one who has been on these guys since the beginning. Don't pretend you don't have a personal axe to grind and weren't rubbing one out as the revocations weren't being announced. These court hearings are as suspicious as the commission hearings. Debaca was a perfect example. Sounds like the actual offender got off with a slap on the wrist for throwing Debaca under the bus. What a joke! Both Debaca and Koury got screwed because of who they are more than what they did. No axe to grind, have never met either one, and I wish I could have watched the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flatlander Report post Posted January 17 Did we ever find out the actual facts about what Koury did? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
