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Well Str8shot, if you don't like herein it shut your pie hole, and stay out of it. Had all I can take from you holly then throw liberal BS. Shut the heck up. We no you love the socialist government, you should go work for Berny sanders campaign. Sorry for the rant everyone but I have had enough of the he she's pie hole. My opinion only

Screw off woody wood pecker .... I will speak my mind as a Hunter any day I feel like it ... LIBERAL now that is some funny BS right there .... It is ignorant Hunters bending and ignoring rules that give hunter a bad name ... IS your vagina hurting .. is it that time of the month for you ?

 

THIS SITE HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY MORE WHINERS AND CRY BABIES THAN A HOSPITAL NURSERY !

 

Notice to Hunters

NOTICE TO HUNTERS

  • Tree stands are permitted if they do not cause resource damage i.e. cutting limbs, putting nails and bolts into trees or any other permanent alteration/injury to trees or surrounding vegetation. Tree stands need to be removed after daily use. Tree stands left unoccupied for any extended period of time is prohibited. Title 36 CFR 261.9(a) and 262.13.
  • Currently there is no specific regulation regarding game cameras left in the forest. The forest service does not recommend leaving any property in the forest. Game cameras have been frequently reported stolen.
  • There are new rules for motor vehicle use on the Forest. All motor vehicles must stay on designated roads and trails as shown on the Motor Vehicle Use Map (MVUM). Driving off of designated roads for elk retrieval is allowed in Game Management Units 6A, 6B, 7E, 7W, and 8; but driving off of designated roads for game retrieval is not allowed under any circumstances in game units 5A, 5BN, 5BS, or 11M. You can get an electronic copy of the map, which shows all of the designated routes here or get a hard copy of the map at any Coconino National Forest office and most of the outdoor retail stores around Flagstaff. The Forest strongly suggests using the map on your Garmin GPS or smartphone. Instructions on how to do this are located here.

So this posting FROM the Forest Service is wrong "according to you" hmm sounds like you need to re-read what the FS publishes each year!!!!!!

 

No offense Elkhunter .... Not accurate at all and not the rules ... I posted the national rules on the other thread ... I have not ever said you can not hang them and I have friends that do ... What I pointed out out and as what you posted says They are considered personal property and fall in as abandoned after 24 hours ( up to 72 in some forests) .... There are The Main Rules and Each forest can also have specific rules and amendments ... That is for the Coconino Forest and their way of just saying we told you it was not recommended.... As personal property they also fall into the same rules as tree stands if you are cutting or bolting into live trees and if they are found by FS they will be removed and impounded seen them in the process in 23 2 years ago. You may look at my view as telling others what to do, and that is not the case ... but IMO if you know the rules , you know the type of society that wanders around on public lands you should take responsibility for taking the gamble to up your odds on Hunt week without being surprised and coming on to whine, piss and moan about things disappearing... We have been seeing these threads about missing cams pretty much since the forum started it just gets old seeing the rants and assumptions thrown around year after year attacking other hunters ... There are bad hunters with no ethics out there taking them , I am sure of that ... but they are not the only ones we all know that as well...

 

From now on I will just say "AWE MAN... SHUCKS THAT SUCKS!!! " but of course it will be sarcasm. I know people are gambling leaving anything unattended on public land ....So, I do not really empathize , that is just me. As far as being called names because I have a different view than most, those that know me laugh as I do when they hear I am being called liberal , anti and all the other funny things by so many fine outstanding members ( the ones who lack the ability to debate so they insult). I hope those guys do not aim thier guns as bad as their insults or they will constantly be missing by a mile. So , woody ... It is all good. I do not take anything said here personal. Bad days happen.

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Well Str8shot, if you don't like herein it shut your pie hole, and stay out of it. Had all I can take from you holly then throw liberal BS. Shut the heck up. We no you love the socialist government, you should go work for Berny sanders campaign. Sorry for the rant everyone but I have had enough of the he she's pie hole. My opinion only

Screw off woody wood pecker .... I will speak my mind as a Hunter any day I feel like it ... LIBERAL now that is some funny BS right there .... It is ignorant Hunters bending and ignoring rules that give hunter a bad name ... IS your vagina hurting .. is it that time of the month for you ?

 

THIS SITE HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY MORE WHINERS AND CRY BABIES THAN A HOSPITAL NURSERY !

 

Notice to Hunters

NOTICE TO HUNTERS

  • Tree stands are permitted if they do not cause resource damage i.e. cutting limbs, putting nails and bolts into trees or any other permanent alteration/injury to trees or surrounding vegetation. Tree stands need to be removed after daily use. Tree stands left unoccupied for any extended period of time is prohibited. Title 36 CFR 261.9(a) and 262.13.
  • Currently there is no specific regulation regarding game cameras left in the forest. The forest service does not recommend leaving any property in the forest. Game cameras have been frequently reported stolen.
  • There are new rules for motor vehicle use on the Forest. All motor vehicles must stay on designated roads and trails as shown on the Motor Vehicle Use Map (MVUM). Driving off of designated roads for elk retrieval is allowed in Game Management Units 6A, 6B, 7E, 7W, and 8; but driving off of designated roads for game retrieval is not allowed under any circumstances in game units 5A, 5BN, 5BS, or 11M. You can get an electronic copy of the map, which shows all of the designated routes here or get a hard copy of the map at any Coconino National Forest office and most of the outdoor retail stores around Flagstaff. The Forest strongly suggests using the map on your Garmin GPS or smartphone. Instructions on how to do this are located here.

So this posting FROM the Forest Service is wrong "according to you" hmm sounds like you need to re-read what the FS publishes each year!!!!!!

 

No offense Elkhunter .... Not accurate at all and not the rules ... I posted the national rules on the other thread ... I have not ever said you can not hang them and I have friends that do ... What I pointed out out and as what you posted says They are considered personal property and fall in as abandoned after 24 hours ( up to 72 in some forests) .... There are The Main Rules and Each forest can also have specific rules and amendments ... That is for the Coconino Forest and their way of just saying we told you it was not recommended.... As personal property they also fall into the same rules as tree stands if you are cutting or bolting into live trees and if they are found by FS they will be removed and impounded seen them in the process in 23 2 years ago. You may look at my view as telling others what to do, and that is not the case ... but IMO if you know the rules , you know the type of society that wanders around on public lands you should take responsibility for taking the gamble to up your odds on Hunt week without being surprised and coming on to whine, piss and moan about things disappearing... We have been seeing these threads about missing cams pretty much since the forum started it just gets old seeing the rants and assumptions thrown around year after year attacking other hunters ... There are bad hunters with no ethics out there taking them , I am sure of that ... but they are not the only ones we all know that as well...

 

From now on I will just say "AWE MAN... SHUCKS THAT SUCKS!!! " but of course it will be sarcasm. I know people are gambling leaving anything unattended on public land ....So, I do not really empathize , that is just me. As far as being called names because I have a different view than most, those that know me laugh as I do when they hear I am being called liberal , anti and all the other funny things by so many fine outstanding members ( the ones who lack the ability to debate so they insult). I hope those guys do not aim thier guns as bad as their insults or they will constantly be missing by a mile. So , woody ... It is all good. I do not take anything said here personal. Bad days happen.

 

It looks like the FS is like every other Govt. agency. Says one thing and does another. IF I was to ever get an Elk tag again and I was to place cams out and the FS was to "impound" one, without clearly defined rules or procedures for impoundment the FS could deny any involvement by saying that is not policy while selling them off for "office" money!!!!

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"That was a really great post, Str8shot"....said no one ever

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Well Str8shot, if you don't like herein it shut your pie hole, and stay out of it. Had all I can take from you holly then throw liberal BS. Shut the heck up. We no you love the socialist government, you should go work for Berny sanders campaign. Sorry for the rant everyone but I have had enough of the he she's pie hole. My opinion only

Screw off woody wood pecker .... I will speak my mind as a Hunter any day I feel like it ... LIBERAL now that is some funny BS right there .... It is ignorant Hunters bending and ignoring rules that give hunter a bad name ... IS your vagina hurting .. is it that time of the month for you ?

 

THIS SITE HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY MORE WHINERS AND CRY BABIES THAN A HOSPITAL NURSERY !

 

Notice to Hunters

NOTICE TO HUNTERS

  • Tree stands are permitted if they do not cause resource damage i.e. cutting limbs, putting nails and bolts into trees or any other permanent alteration/injury to trees or surrounding vegetation. Tree stands need to be removed after daily use. Tree stands left unoccupied for any extended period of time is prohibited. Title 36 CFR 261.9(a) and 262.13.
  • Currently there is no specific regulation regarding game cameras left in the forest. The forest service does not recommend leaving any property in the forest. Game cameras have been frequently reported stolen.
  • There are new rules for motor vehicle use on the Forest. All motor vehicles must stay on designated roads and trails as shown on the Motor Vehicle Use Map (MVUM). Driving off of designated roads for elk retrieval is allowed in Game Management Units 6A, 6B, 7E, 7W, and 8; but driving off of designated roads for game retrieval is not allowed under any circumstances in game units 5A, 5BN, 5BS, or 11M. You can get an electronic copy of the map, which shows all of the designated routes here or get a hard copy of the map at any Coconino National Forest office and most of the outdoor retail stores around Flagstaff. The Forest strongly suggests using the map on your Garmin GPS or smartphone. Instructions on how to do this are located here.

So this posting FROM the Forest Service is wrong "according to you" hmm sounds like you need to re-read what the FS publishes each year!!!!!!

 

No offense Elkhunter .... Not accurate at all and not the rules ... I posted the national rules on the other thread ... I have not ever said you can not hang them and I have friends that do ...

 

Ok str8shot.....your 4th sentence here we all know is BS...you have no friends.

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Sooner or later some one is gonna get hurt stealing, confiscating what ever you call it. How does leaving game cams in the field hurt the environment, wildlife or anything else. Fair chase, or what ever. Here is the deal. Some folks use cameras, some folks use radios, some cell phones, archery, rifle, when is the fricking BS going to stop. heck we got contractors from the EPA that just let loose 3 million gallons of toxic waste down the animas river which is now in the San Juan and will end up in Lake Powell. No problem, it's the Feds and they will smile and wave.

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Im going to keep doing things in the woods as I do. I try and think I am a law obieding citizen. I cant take the law library to the woods.

If I am wrong or illegal, str8tcop you are welcome to hook me up.

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I try to live my life like I'm on camera at all times. I stop and think "what if I'm bein filmed for a tv show and the whole world is watching" it's stopped a couple dumb mistakes I might of made.

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Str8shot most of us here realize the USFS has not used common sense to manage "our" forests for at least the last 40-50 years. Are you suggesting we all lower our standards to match their unprofessional behavior?

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I try to live my life like I'm on camera at all times. I stop and think "what if I'm bein filmed for a tv show and the whole world is watching" it's stopped a couple dumb mistakes I might of made.

I always try to think how what I do would look on the front page of the newspaper.

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