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On 3/9/2021 at 6:04 PM, 1uofacat said:

Sounds like you are...

 

Where do you come off calling those of us who aren't happy with how this is being done as "complainers"?  FYI, in case you didn't realize, the G&F made over the cost of 50 full time employees at an expense of $55K/year each, on this draw alone!  That's astounding!  That's $2.782M on app fees alone, or over 100,000 paid MHs!  That doesn't include the $10M (perhaps more) made in hunting licenses and tag fees on this draw.

 

I for one am also calling BS on the excuse of 17,000 "additional" applicants... SO WHAT, that's only a 10% increase in last year's elk/antelope draw.  An electronic system, which we have now, should be able to handle 100x that number with ZERO IMPACTS,  Besides, how does this year's elk/antelope application numbers compare to last year's deer, bighorn, turkey, bison, etc. applications?  More excuses...

 

As far as your comment, "making what the folks at the G&F do...." remember this.  They're all STILL EMPLOYED!  Not everyone is!!  Not only that, they work for us, and the G&F is a State Agency that is supposed to have accountability for how they run "their operation".  If it weren't for us (through license and tag fees), none of them would be employed, but they act as though we work for them!  I seriously doubt we'll ever hear what was done wrong, or how they're going to improve on the obvious mistakes made this year.  If the G&F was a private company competing with other private companies they'd be out of BUSINESS by now! 

 

As far as it not making any difference to you in your planning process, I'm happy for you.  Remember however that there are many out here that can not reasonably afford to apply in another state and possibly end up in tags for both (I made the same point over a week ago about the same thing in another thread).  Some of us have to budget our funds appropriately, and the g&f being late by what's going on two weeks now, is to me inexcusable.  It reeks of incompetence, plain and simple.  Note they also said that this may go into next week as well before the draw is held, which would be double the 17 days they had since the draw closed to hit the "DRAW" button (when CCs could no longer be updated, which is another topic all together).

 

So, we pay them very well, every year, yet they still don't appear to have the draw system figured out?  There is no reason that this system shouldn't be flawless by now.  I for one don't trust them.  Know I used to work for a State Agency and know full well the corruption that was and can be prevalent in State Agencies that the public will never know about.

 

BTW, it's not all bad, and I personally have and will continue to hunt with past G&F WMs, great friends!  They worked very hard and were committed to their professions, as I am.  What I'm referring to above is how the current draw system needs to be corrected, and perhaps have the supervisors and department heads held accountable for their work.  They also should IMO have a change of attitude towards us in general knowing full well the department should be accountable for the services WE fund, period.  Why not trying to BE HONEST WITH US for a change!

Geez, I thought some of you were pissed. A guy who writes a book must be imploding with anger.

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16 minutes ago, huntlines said:

Geez, I thought some of you were pissed. A guy who writes a book must be imploding with anger.

Dam man you got a hard on for everyone that post something you dont like. Sit back, have a beer and relax!! 

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40 minutes ago, AllBoutHuntn said:

Dam man you got a hard on for everyone that post something you dont like. Sit back, have a beer and relax!! 

I was thinking same thing

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53 minutes ago, AllBoutHuntn said:

Dam man you got a hard on for everyone that post something you dont like. Sit back, have a beer and relax!! 

I never said I don’t like his post, I just am amazed at how people are loosing their sh!t over this.

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4 minutes ago, huntlines said:

I never said I don’t like his post, I just am amazed at how people are loosing their sh!t over this.

Thats the thing. You have some sort of reply for everything someone posts that you think are losing their shoot. Its draw time man!  We all lose are shoot with anticipation. 

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6 minutes ago, AllBoutHuntn said:

Thats the thing. You have some sort of reply for everything someone posts that you think are losing their shoot. Its draw time man!  We all lose are shoot with anticipation. 

Yup and I find it highly entertaining.😁

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2 minutes ago, huntlines said:

Yup and I find it highly entertaining.😁

Thats the great part of the draw. Everyone is entertained by what others say. We just aint negative nancy’s like you!! 

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Just now, AllBoutHuntn said:

Thats the great part of the draw. Everyone is entertained by what others say. We just aint negative nancy’s like you!! 

I was thinking Debbie Downer was in the house

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16 minutes ago, AllBoutHuntn said:

Thats the great part of the draw. Everyone is entertained by what others say. We just aint negative nancy’s like you!! 

I just think some of you need an Ativan lick next to your bed. So every morning you can self medicate.....

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1 minute ago, huntlines said:

I just think some of you need an Ativan lick next to your bed. So every morning you can self medicate.....

Guess you just dont get it!! Some of us are passionate about hunting and go a little crazy sometimes. All about the pot at the end of the rainbow. Like nobull350 would say, stay thirsty my friend!!  

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12 minutes ago, AllBoutHuntn said:

Guess you just dont get it!! Some of us are passionate about hunting and go a little crazy sometimes. All about the pot at the end of the rainbow. Like nobull350 would say, stay thirsty my friend!!  

Pretty sure he woulda used the word clowns.

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2 minutes ago, CatfishKev said:

Pretty sure he woulda used the word clowns.

True True but figured I would go easy lol

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46 minutes ago, AllBoutHuntn said:

Guess you just dont get it!! Some of us are passionate about hunting and go a little crazy sometimes. All about the pot at the end of the rainbow. Like nobull350 would say, stay thirsty my friend!!  

I think we are all passionate about hunting. I get why some are freaking out cuz I too am a little freaked at the delay. I guess it’s the lashing out at each other I find amusing and disturbing at the same time. Great time of year to entertain ourselves on social media.

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These threads are the greatest,

This quote says it best , some of you guys are border line physco.

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I find amusing and disturbing at the same time.

I do love the parts were people say we employee them or there working for use, someone give these fools there buck fifty back as reimbursement. hahaha Carry on

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