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Seems like a pendulum swing. A few years ago some guides were getting off with a slap on the wrist. That’s a lame application of that law. Koury was looking for otc elk instead of scouting for his once in a lifetime deer tag?! Of course he should have known better. That’s on him. But that’s a silly letter of the law interpretation and honestly it sounds like they busted him because he was a guide. I hate that stuff. Seems like WMO’s want to target these guys, and I am not a fan of LEO’s trying to make a name for themselves.

Wow. I’ve shot a pile of critters from a road. Musta been county maintained or something? I’d have to brush up on my AZ regs again I guess! We can legally shoot from the road here in ND. Seems like a petty offense to take away a license for 5 years?!?

That attorney explained and it kind of made sense. He didn't really care about getting a misdemeanor when he thought they decided not to take his license after the 180 day statute of limitations. So when 180+ days past he said I dont really care if this conviction stands as long as I'm not losing my license so he dropped it. Then it sounds like azgfd came in after the 180 days and gave him notice of the revocation. Thats where I dont understand why he didnt fight it more. I dont know the details of that part but seems like it should be clear cut if they missed their 180 day period. But courts seem to give law enforcement a lot of leeway and make exceptions for them quite often.

But the thing is it wasn't him, it was the Hunter. And since the hunter shot it with a foot on the road that made the deer illegal. So once it became illegal, transporting it for the hunter to the taxidermist was illegal because it was unlawfully taken. Am I missing something because that sounds like horse shoot to me? Also, I am confused why he dropped his appeal. I dont think that was a good move.

More ready to head home!

This was the place that got me started with western big game hunting and online hunting forums. I had dropped off of CWT for awhile as AZ became a 'build points and wait' state for me as I spent more time in CO/WY, which were also a bit more accessible to me for where I was living. I'm aching to get back and hunt AZ again and I've always enjoyed reading along with hunts and successes that other members have had. I fully believe that CWT is still one of, if not the best forum in terms of practical knowledge, helpful folks and general camaraderie. Lots has happened in the last 10 almost 11 years since I became a member-- moved three times, had three kids, left active duty for the guard, spent 8 wild years in LE, changed careers again, broke my back, hunted TX, OK, CO, WY, UT, AK, and finally we have settled in western PA on 25 acres of our own and have been able to harvest a buck and turkey here in our first year of owning it! Just wanted to drop by and say hello again to the team here at CWT!

Turkey, buck, backyard!

It is mountable it was tubed out

Let me think, ...nope, not once. I actually enjoy the challenge of hunting. If I don't fill a tag, I consider it a win for the species and use the defeat as motivation to become a better hunter. Cheating would only hinder my progress. I'm fairly new to hunting. I only started back in 2020 when my oldest son was 9. We read the regulations front to back, several times before he and I took our Hunter Education classes/tests. I keep a current copy of each regulations book in my truck and my sons and I all carry copies in our backpacks too. The rules regarding hunting from, across or into a road/railway are easy to understand. There are so many things that can be learned and practiced while hunting. One of the most important to me personally is ethics, as I have become a youth hunting mentor to my sons and many of their friends. During youth hunts, I've been known to assist other parents who I've just met to fill their youth's tags, after my son's tags were filled. Some might say I'm a glutton for punishment. But as a homeschooling parent, I get a real sense of accomplishment from teaching our youth. And what would I be teaching them by doing something the unethical way? My 15-year-old son has shown an interest in guiding as a potential career opportunity, so these threads/cases are especially intriguing to me.

You’ve never shot a deer from a road? Never? Not once?

This site has never been guide friendly. Like Piranhas waiting for a goldfish to drop. So if a guy was prone with his feet on the road, was his body off the road? Or was he shooting across the road?

Man, you are the one who has been on these guys since the beginning. Don't pretend you don't have a personal axe to grind and weren't rubbing one out as the revocations weren't being announced. These court hearings are as suspicious as the commission hearings. Debaca was a perfect example. Sounds like the actual offender got off with a slap on the wrist for throwing Debaca under the bus. What a joke! Both Debaca and Koury got screwed because of who they are more than what they did.

These "highly successful guides or hunters" either pled guilty or were found guilty by a court of law. You don't end up in front of the commission any other way.

Smoking deal!!

Probably more like $80 if it’s still good.

Koury had his license revoked for 5 yrs. Not sure about the others.

I would be willing to bet half the archery and rifle deer kills are not reported. I am in favor of a unit specific archery tag with a quota, not a draw. A draw for the specific units to aquire the tag that doesnt affect the rifle draw and points would be ok. X amount of tags whether quota is met or not. The bottlenecking of archery hunters as the units close is fning ridiculous. The desert deer need a break for sure. All of the above mentioned plus the poachers are still rampant around the farming communities and freeloaders squatting in the desert and forests. My .02

Had a good December hunt! After a couple years of tag soup we were overdue. Between work, travel, and family schedules our time was pretty limited to get out. Had a few good days with some good bucks spotted that didn’t present any shot opportunities and the warm weather didn’t help. These two had read the script and showed up at first light exactly where we had hoped to find deer. After we figured out our play and were moving closer, the herd of at least 12-15 topped out and moved onto the next ridge. Sneaking to the top to begin searching for the bucks, the herd had really spread out and all we could find were does everywhere. Finally spotted one of the bucks way down low and started setting up for the 260yd shot. My buddy spotted the other buck and we decided which one looked better and presented the best shot. Boom…dropped right there. The second buck didn’t even move after the shot and gave us time to get set up for another shot. Boom…dropped right there within about 25 yards of each other. Radioed our friends who had been helping spot for us to bring the packs and knives! They even brought a couple of cold brews from the truck to help celebrate. Nice having a youngster in the group with a strong back to help pack out too! The two of us have been hunting together for over 10 years and have had some great times and quite a few misses and servings of tag soup. First time we’ve ever even had a chance for a double together so it was really special.

Nice buck! Congrats and thanks so much for sharing your success.

Beautiful buck. Thanks for sharing.

Real nice. Good job 👍

Wouldn't tag #1 go to bonus pass?

Good Deal by a great guy.

That's what a shovel is for !! Just remember to dig a deep hole.