Rudebob Report post Posted August 3 My family eats very clean and we had a recent discussion about the possibility of ingesting lead from our game meat. Although from my research the chances of lead poison are unlikely I have been considering switching to all copper mono rounds to keep peace at the dinner table. The downsides seem minimal but from my research these rounds do need some velocity to expand properly. Since most of my kill shots have been between 350 - 500 yards in recent years I am wondering what kind of performance one could expect with copper at those distances (6.5 Creed). Anyone have any experience with all copper bullets on Cues beyond the chip shots? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PRDATR Report post Posted August 3 Killed my first Coues with a 120gr Barnes X Bullet 30 years ago. 120gr 7MAG at 200 yards. DRT. I think the load was 69gr of RL19 at about 3450. A few years ago I shot a 6X7 Bull at 400 yards with the same rifle. Barnes VOR-TX 160gr factory round. No tracking was needed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunit Report post Posted August 3 I switched over 20 years ago for the same reasons, in my experience the performance is flawless. I have killed a couple of bulls , mule deer, antelope and a Bighorn sheep with Barnes TTSX bullets in both 7mm and .30 cal all with quick one shot kills. An added bonus is that they have proven to be very accurate in my rifles. One of the elk, the mule deer and the antelope were all over 400 yards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted August 3 Killed a lot of critters with Barnes TTSX. They work really well when, A pushed hard (higher velocity), B they contact bone. Put a TTSX that starts at or above 3000 fps into a shoulder and 99% chance there is 0 tracking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wish2hunt Report post Posted August 3 I would be worried more about what’s going into my fruits and vegetables before I would lead poisoning. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rudebob Report post Posted August 3 55 minutes ago, wish2hunt said: I would be worried more about what’s going into my fruits and vegetables before I would lead poisoning. Yeah, they worry about that too and it is expensive. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rudebob Report post Posted August 3 1 hour ago, firstcoueswas80 said: Killed a lot of critters with Barnes TTSX. They work really well when, A pushed hard (higher velocity), B they contact bone. Put a TTSX that starts at or above 3000 fps into a shoulder and 99% chance there is 0 tracking. I guess that is why I am questioning the performance on a small body animal like the cues. They penetrate well but will it expand? I am guessing ballitically 500 yards or less would be fine on my setup but at what point/distance do you risk only getting penetration? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas80 Report post Posted August 3 4 minutes ago, Rudebob said: I guess that is why I am questioning the performance on a small body animal like the cues. They penetrative well but will it expand? I am guessing ballitically 500 yards or less would be fine on my setup but at what point/distance do you risk only getting penetration? Ive killed a handful of coues with TTSX, at or past 500 and no issues. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yotebuster Report post Posted August 3 I shot some 127gr hammer hunter tipped bullets out of my 25 SST last year. Killed 3-4 deer and an elk (at 541 yards) with them and was really impressed. The BC’s are similar to a cab over peterbilt, but the terminal performance was excellent. All of them did exactly what they say they do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
L Cazador Report post Posted August 3 I don't think the expanding issue is anything to worry about. One thing to consider is that monolith bullets are longer and require a faster twist. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted August 3 It’s called orthorexia. It’s becoming more and more prevalent with the rise of health influencer grifters. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wish2hunt Report post Posted August 3 9 hours ago, Rudebob said: I guess that is why I am questioning the performance on a small body animal like the cues. They penetrate well but will it expand? I am guessing ballitically 500 yards or less would be fine on my setup but at what point/distance do you risk only getting penetration? Go with lead and trim around the wound channel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rudebob Report post Posted August 3 1 hour ago, trphyhntr said: It’s called orthorexia. It’s becoming more and more prevalent with the rise of health influencer grifters. There may be some truth to that but IMO the real grifters are the ones who made up the food pyramids, chicken m nuggets, "masks will stop the spread", etc. So I am ok with a little skepticism towards any government or for profit institution that says "trust us, we are here to help". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MogollonMan Report post Posted August 3 That lead killed game is exponentially safer and more healthy than 99.99% of what you buy at the grocery store. Fear of lead poisoning is probably the last reason I would switch to all copper. Probably the best thing you could do for your family’s health, physically and mentally, is to get them off of social media and listening to people who have found success in monetizing fear and paranoia. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted August 3 14 minutes ago, Rudebob said: There may be some truth to that but IMO the real grifters are the ones who made up the food pyramids, chicken m nuggets, "masks will stop the spread", etc. So I am ok with a little skepticism towards any government or for profit institution that says "trust us, we are here to help". Chicken mcnuggets aren’t on the food pyramid. Although there’s isn’t anything inherently wrong with eating them if they fit in your diet that’s the problem. People blame the food pyramid, and they’re not even following it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites