5guyshunting Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Ok lance a dead line is a dead line. G+f set it 7 pm. Computer crash at 6 pm. Their fault. To extend for 24 more hours b.s They do need to make up the hour. To me thats the bottom line. Im not the procrastinator, I had no problems 3 weeks ago. Sorry for my crap grammer, im in a hurry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seldom Drawn Report post Posted February 12, 2015 I don't think the servers ever crashed when Sci-Fi Nevada did the draw years ago, Game and Fish, I think fired them because they were to expensive. I wonder how many hunters that wait untill the last day to put in hunt more then a couple days? The die hards I know would never wait untill the end to put in. AZLance, I am pretty much in the woods from August To January, there aren't many hunters on any given hunt still out hunting the last hour. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oz31p Report post Posted February 12, 2015 It's been a while since I was in the IT world but...... It's pretty obvious they don't have the equipment to handle the surge every draw cycle. If they did it would sit idle most of the year expect the two main draws. The equipment would be outdated every other cycle any way. So why try to do the draw inhouse? I bet there's no less than 100 IT firms in state that could handle a draw cycle incident free and cheaper. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesHunterAZ Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Here is my $.02 on the subject 1) Game and Fish needs to set up something where they can tell who is trying to put in before 6:45 on the deadline. Then the next day only these applicants can put in again. 2) All of you are going to hate me, but I kind of like how they extend the deadline. I assume that all the people that put in within the last hour, or until the extended deadline, are amateur hunters who aren't very serious about hunting yet (not as serious about the people on this site). Haha I imagine its like my dad putting my family in when we first moved here, where us kids are begging him to put us in but he is always so busy that he only remembers until the last minute. I also imagine that Dad getting extremely lucky and getting his kids drawn and that their hunt is what gets them addicted to this sport. Good luck to everyone in the draw this year 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ghost hunter Report post Posted February 12, 2015 No one has brought it up, but I was wondering how many times the deadline was extended when it was a paper app only? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muledeerarea33? Report post Posted February 12, 2015 For the past 19 years I have applied by paper. The past twelve years have been on the last day! My schedule is planned to apply around noon on deadline day, always paper.'before I lived near an office it was mailed a week in advance. However, if you want to wail til the last possible second to hit submit online, you should be able to! eBay does it? But when it's done it needs to be done! Work til the end of the time Stated and be done 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildwoody Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Here, here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5guyshunting Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Ok lance a dead line is a dead line. G+f set it 7 pm. Computer crash at 6 pm. Their fault. To extend for 24 more hours b.s They do need to make up the hour. To me thats the bottom line. Im not the procrastinator, I had no problems 3 weeks ago. Sorry for my crap grammer, im in a hurry.My comments were not aimed at anyone in particular, so I am sorry if you took it personally. No worries here , its game on and nothing personal. Cant fix it, enjoy it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle mountain ranch Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Let me start off by saying my apps were,and have been submitted.Furthermore it's 2015 servers today can and should be able to handle the load.Some glitches can occur but should be recoverable.To completely shut down for long 2-4 hours is unheard of in today's times.My stuff which is both mechanical,and electronic just handled every person that was at the Super Bowl zero issues in a short ammont of time.It can be done if the effort is put forward before hand. Leaving the end user with next to zero problems! I really have no dog in this fight but,trust me with today's technogles it can,and is done every day.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagle mountain ranch Report post Posted February 12, 2015 sorry was in a hurry and spelled Technologies wrong .. LOL Hey if it weren't for the draw what would we have to bitch about ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Sparky Report post Posted February 12, 2015 I am laughing as this to me is funny. My NM draws are already in place 6 weeks before the deadline here. Just think it could be worse. What if they delayed the draw results by 24 hours, 48 hours or a week? What if the crash took out every bodies application? I expect I could see the mushroom cloud to the southwest from my house. I expect that they have the draw results long before they announce them in case there is a glitch. You all have proved that here in NM that is the case. You may not know what units you drew but know a week in advance if you drew. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wdenike Report post Posted February 12, 2015 WOW!!! A guy is absent for a little while from the computer. Thinking a subject as trivial as this would have beat it self to death. Only to come back to see quotes from the game and fish web site. That still some can't wrap their minds around. " Including FAILURE to COMPLETE or TRANSMIT an application PRIOR to the deadline. Or any ERRORS in the application or TRANSMISSION." Sounds to me like. If ya didn't do any of the above wrong. BAM guess who is the one at fault. ( Fill in the blanks _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ). I guess this is another one of those examples. That sometimes very highly educated people people. Are just that, very highly educated and book smart!! Severely lacking common sense, and ability to recognize what is simply just plain right and wrong. Unless of course they happen to have an agenda. Now before someone continues to dig their hole deeper. Putting me in the waiting till the last minute crowd. Food for thought. I may have, more than likely put in before you. But would not make such a bold statement. After all common sense should tell me. That I don't even know you, nor do I know what date you put in. I also recognize that it would make no difference whether I could dream up a reason as to why a person would wait till the last minute to put in. As I am also aware that others business is NONE of mine. This is not directed directly at anyone, but if the shoe fits wear it with PRIDE. As there is little hope you will change any way. Take care, Willie P. S. I don't agree with fish & game much. But as long as they don't have their chit together. It's good to see them exercise common sense. And try and do what's right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Str8Shot Report post Posted February 12, 2015 Websites use disclaimers all the time, but that does not mean that the entity running the site, is it not going to try and do right by the people using their site if an issues arises. People who use their system in good faith that it will function properly at anytime during the process. The one thing I can guarantee, is the IDIOTS whining over G&F doing what they feel is the right thing would be singing a different tune if the use of the on-line system caused other issues. They would be whining, screaming,yelling, and crying, if in the 11th hour a virus corrupted every bit of data making every application done on-line disappear, and G&F replied with "You Should have Read our disclaimer. We will only be drawing from paper applications this year!!!" I see a bunch of children constantly on this sight complaining how everyone should do things the same way they do, when in reality life is far to chaotic that anyone should even have such expectations. You got in the first hour it was up good for you! The other guy could not get in the last hour it should have been up, and got an extra day, I am glad he had the opportunity to. Those whining should get over themselves and go do some volunteer work or something more constructive than crying here about G&F. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Couestracker Report post Posted February 12, 2015 The North Koreans hacked it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gotcoues Report post Posted February 12, 2015 This is my opinion. and yours may vary. If my boss asked for something by close of business, I sure as heck would not wait until 4:59 to turn it in. If I tell a person to meet me on a site at 6:00AM, they better not be late. If one of my customers wants to meet at 7:00, I am there by 6:30 at least, and I allow a lot of time for unforeseen issues that often arise. "Why does poor planning on your part constitute an emergency on mine?" should be G&F's response. There is absolutely no reason to wait until the last hour to put in for a draw. If you miss out, you should not go hunting. Someone stated that people are used to mediocrity. That is their fault. G&F should honor the hard deadline set forth in writing, which is a reward to those who get their application in on time, and a penalty to those who don't. Lance, I am by no means calling you out, but I thought your argument is perfect to use as an example. You say you show up a half hour early for your appt, so what if the homeowner left and said "I know you were "on time", but I left because I didn't really care that I told you 7??? Bottom line, the server should work until the promised time or they should extend it. Procrastination is no excuse someone shouldn't get to put in, the server should work or be extended. I think some of you guys, a lot of you guys should lighten up a little... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
