What after market action?

[goatsie]

Don't discount the .22 Dasher pushing a 90 VLD @ 3300, great LR varmint round. And crazy accurate.

 

or....

 

The .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer pushing a 50gr. @ 4600. Only uses 105gr.of H570.

 

Think I am kidding? Look it up.

 

Defiance

Surgeon

Stiller

Accuracy International

Kelbly's

Big Horn

 

22BR Improved! 5239fps.......

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiXuZjKk8zPAhUF5yYKHRp8CHsQFggcMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbulletin.accurateshooter.com%2F2015%2F08%2F5000-fps-with-22br-improved-and-30gr-berger-bullets%2F&usg=AFQjCNFtvjuQ3XPZl8Z2ZW_m7baOz0c7Xg&sig2=JLL5NqXcTQODA8HHS0rRtQ&bvm=bv.135258522,d.cWw

[WampusCat]

I really like the looks of the new bighorn action and its mechanical ejector. Would be great for not slinging brass all over on a P-Dog town.

[STOMP442]

6mmBR is where I would start and stop cartridge wise. 29-30gr of powder will push 105 class bullets to 2800fps plus and barrel life that rivals the 308. Easy recoil and excellent ballistics.

[Zeke-BE]

 

If choose something in the 6mm class. Light enough for prairie dogs and heavy enough for deer.as far as aftermarket actions go I'm not sure? I've thought of going that route for the sexiness of it but it's really not needed since a factory action can perform or out perform the nice aftermarket ones. I'm sure any aftermarket action you choose with a built in rail will be good.

 

Don't really need it to be deer rifle already have 22-250 Ai,243wssm,25-06,257wby,6.5x55 Swed,6.5-300wby,a couple 270wsm's,30-06Ai,and a 300rum for backup deer rifles.

When I go for some prairie dog action 600 rnd days aren't uncommon so looking for another rifle that's easy on powder, barrel, ears,shoulder, and just plain fun to shoot. Some times I go by myself so being able to call my own shots would be a plus.

 

 

 

obbessssed Much???? I like it!!!!! Please keep us up to date with this build. Sounds awesome

 

[dse]

 

 

If choose something in the 6mm class. Light enough for prairie dogs and heavy enough for deer.as far as aftermarket actions go I'm not sure? I've thought of going that route for the sexiness of it but it's really not needed since a factory action can perform or out perform the nice aftermarket ones. I'm sure any aftermarket action you choose with a built in rail will be good.

 

Don't really need it to be deer rifle already have 22-250 Ai,243wssm,25-06,257wby,6.5x55 Swed,6.5-300wby,a couple 270wsm's,30-06Ai,and a 300rum for backup deer rifles.

When I go for some prairie dog action 600 rnd days aren't uncommon so looking for another rifle that's easy on powder, barrel, ears,shoulder, and just plain fun to shoot. Some times I go by myself so being able to call my own shots would be a plus.

 

 

 

obbessssed Much???? I like it!!!!! Please keep us up to date with this build. Sounds awesome

 

 

Well it's worse than that! I left out the varmint rifles, lever guns, shotguns, big bores, rimfires, muzzleloaders, handguns, and pneumatics.

[L Cazador]

I shoot my 6BR with 95g bullets and my 22BR w/80g bullets for 600-700 yds P-D shooting. I've been doing these two calibers with great success for about 40 years on PD's. The problem with lighter bullets in the 224 diameter is that it is very difficult to spot your own shots. Not because of recoil but because of the very small dust signature from the lighter bullets. And if the wind gets to blowing ( when isn't it blowing) it blows the dust signature right off. I've tried different calibers and yes I still shoot the 222 and the 221 Fireball but for closer distances like 350 and under. Once you get out to 600 yards you lose a lot of velocity with the lighter low coefficient bullets. My recommendation is go with a Stiller action, a laminate stock for extra weight, and a heavy varmint contour barrel with 8 twist, and a Nightforce benchrest scope(1/8 minute clicks). This will give you about an 18 pound rifle with easy to spot shots and low recoil. I still have trouble spotting shots with my 222 varmint weight barrel when I go to shooting the 55g bullets(12 twist is essential for this weight). Another thing you will find is that the image dissolves quickly at 700 yds in the cheaper scopes like Vortex, Burris, Sightron, and Nikon. A Leupold in 6.5/20X50 would be my absolute bottom line recommendation. When you get your barrel chambered be sure to specify extra freebore for the long bullets. I use a .120-.140 freebore so my bullets in these two calibers are seated well ahead of the shoulder neck junction. And yes I neck turn my brass for best results. By the way I shoot 221, 222, 20 Vartarg, and 223 out to 400 yds. Then for my in between rifles 400-700yds I shoot 22BR and 6BR.. For long range 700-1500 yards I shoot 6/284 and 6.5/284 these rifles have Vais muzzle brakes. One note is that on wet days nothing but the great big rifles leave a shot signature in the mud! I use a fully adjustable front rest with a heavy rear bag and I shoot off a 360 rotating bench. On a windy day you're not going to make those long shots off a bipod or by using Kentucky windage!!

[azsugarbear]

It's hard to go wrong with the triple deuce. For years it was the standard at competitions. One of the very few rifles I ever regret selling was a Sako Vixen in 222 caliber.

[AxisWorks LLC]

I've been building allot of 6mm Dashers on on the Bighorn actions lately and have really fell in love with them for the smaller cartridges.

 

Bighorn would be my first choice for your application followed by a Defiance.

 

I'm not a fan of the Surgeon extractors and I'm not 100% sold on the BAT adjustable firing pin protrusion feature untill I have more time to spend with them.

 

Eric--

[dse]

I've been building allot of 6mm Dashers on on the Bighorn actions lately and have really fell in love with them for the smaller cartridges.

Bighorn would be my first choice for your application followed by a Defiance.

I'm not a fan of the Surgeon extractors and I'm not 100% sold on the BAT adjustable firing pin protrusion feature untill I have more time to spend with them.

Eric--

 

 

What is it about the Bighorn, that you like over the Defiance?

[AxisWorks LLC]

 

I've been building allot of 6mm Dashers on on the Bighorn actions lately and have really fell in love with them for the smaller cartridges.

Bighorn would be my first choice for your application followed by a Defiance.

I'm not a fan of the Surgeon extractors and I'm not 100% sold on the BAT adjustable firing pin protrusion feature untill I have more time to spend with them.

Eric--

 

What is it about the Bighorn, that you like over the Defiance?

Floating bolt head - helps square up the bolt/action interface for more consistant shooting

 

Interal recoil lug - allows the bighorn action to be put straight into a std rem stock with no milling/bedding alterations. the actions are both same length, but the recoil lug on defiance is 1/4" further forward, requireing not only stock to be milled out, but also area behind lug to be bedded.

sliding plate extractor.

 

bolt release -adjustable bolt stop that I like the feel of it better and I believe it was more beefy

[AxisWorks LLC]

Don't get me wrong there is absolutely nothing wrong with a Defiance Deviant action. My decision usually comes down to which one I can get my hands on first between the two. Im still a Defiance fan as well. Here are some pics of my personal 6.5x47 PRS rifle on a Defiance Deviant. Hopefully today I'll find some time to Cerkote the barreled action Crismon Red and finnish it up.

[Kingzero]

I love my Defiance action and don't think you would be disappointed with one if you went that route. However, if the Bighorn T3 would have been available at that time I would have gone with it instead. The T3 gives you more features and options for about the same price as a Deviant.

 

This video explains it.

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSM3CYOcGgI

[10Turkeys]

The Benchrest Nationals are going on right now at Ben Avery, you might want to find out what the current rage in actions are over there.

[PRDATR]

I came across this, although it a bit dated.

 

http://precisionrifleblog.com/2013/12/30/best-rifle-action/

[dse]

Well I think I'm getting close, but I've thought that a couple dozen times in the last few days. All I've done for the last two days is read about different components.

 

I'm down to the Bighorn, and the Defiance as far as actions. Speedygoss your opinion on this matter is pretty popular. I found what you said in your first post a half dozen places around the web,(almost word for word). I like the look of the Defiance a little better but will likely come down to which one is more available.

I thought I was pretty set on the Swaroviski Z6, but then I found the Kahles K1050. I'm pretty sure I need one!

I've tried to talk myself into a mess of other cartridges from PPC's, to BR's, 6 Dasher, 6x47 Lapua, 6XC, 220 Russian, and 204 Ruger but just keep coming back to the Triple Deuce. Running some numbers through a recoil calculator I get 1.48 ft lbs from the 222 with the load I plan on running. That's about 20% less than the 22 PPC, and around 75% less than the 6mm's. Lapua offers factory brass for the 222 which is pretty appealing considering the amount of ammo I plan to go through. The 222 runs at lower pressure and uses less powder. I have to think that would mean more time shooting and less time waiting for the barrel to cool. I'm also thinking 222 should feed nicely from 223 magazines.

 

The builder seems pretty set on the Krieger 8 twist, and I think it should get a 11° target crown. I'm also thinking of having an extra barrel chambered at the same time.

 

I'm leaning real hard toward the Manners MCS-T4A. I'm slightly disappointed in the McMillan on my last build. Got it in March and just noticed a crack on top of the butt and a rather large divot in the cheek piece.

Still a little confused on the trigger. Not so much which one, but what to set it at. Do I set it like a bench rest trigger, or around 2 1/2 lbs like all my other rifles?

As for the know how to put it all together, it will be up to Phoenix Custom Rifles.