EarlyBronco Report post Posted January 19 Why is everyone crying about crossbows? What’s the unfair advantage of them cuz they shoot fast, cuz they shoot far? So does every other new bow on the market, I can shoot my bow better that my brother with his crossbow standing up at 90 yards ago what’s the big deal? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NOTAGS Report post Posted January 20 Let it go, GF put their stamp on it. It was hugely abused which sux for those who needed it. But those who did will suffer. Modern compound shooters whining about them was like libtard hypocrisy in my book. The traditional archers were banging the same drum for years but they were a silent minority. I have the permit, hunted with an xbow and hated it . Sold it ( a Ravin) for a huge loss. Now it’s probably worth less than my loss price . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted January 20 a Champ tag is just as easy to get as a crossbow permit, just need a doctors signature and $13... heck all you need is arthritis to get a champ tag, or a "burn injury"... just take a cigarette and burn your arm once...bingo! All this is gonna do is make a lot of crossbow hunters go back to doctor to get him/her to sign an additional form. Or go to a chiropractor to get it signed for "Spinal cord conditions" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knothead Report post Posted January 20 11 hours ago, AZLance said: a Champ tag is just as easy to get as a crossbow permit, just need a doctors signature and $13... heck all you need is arthritis to get a champ tag, or a "burn injury"... just take a cigarette and burn your arm once...bingo! All this is gonna do is make a lot of crossbow hunters go back to doctor to get him/her to sign an additional form. Or go to a chiropractor to get it signed for "Spinal cord conditions" This will be abused too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjl2010 Report post Posted January 20 13 hours ago, AZLance said: a Champ tag is just as easy to get as a crossbow permit, just need a doctors signature and $13... heck all you need is arthritis to get a champ tag, or a "burn injury"... just take a cigarette and burn your arm once...bingo! All this is gonna do is make a lot of crossbow hunters go back to doctor to get him/her to sign an additional form. Or go to a chiropractor to get it signed for "Spinal cord conditions" Can you hunt with a crossbow in any archery season or just champ hunts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
654321 Report post Posted January 20 1 hour ago, cjl2010 said: Can you hunt with a crossbow in any archery season or just champ hunts? You will be able to use a crossbow during archery only seasons if you have the CHAMP permit 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knothead Report post Posted January 20 CHAMP permit was created for those people who are so severely disabled that they need to hunt and shoot from a vehicle. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted January 21 I know a kid who got one because he had knee surgery. I know another guy who has one and plays in a softball league Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cactusjack Report post Posted January 21 How is it that everyone knows someone that is committing fraud, but nobody is reporting them to Game Thief? Instead, many are pushing to take away something from everyone, people who have not committed fraud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cactusjack Report post Posted January 21 Sad, if nobody is interested in stopping theft and fraud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CouesFanatic Report post Posted January 21 20 hours ago, cactusjack said: How is it that everyone knows someone that is committing fraud, but nobody is reporting them to Game Thief? Instead, many are pushing to take away something from everyone, people who have not committed fraud. Because it's not fraud. If you read the game and fish definitions for a crossbow permit and even a champ permit, they are wide open. Anyone with a failed muscle test can get a crossbow permit. Anyone with arthritis can get a champ tag. It's their own fault, they need to tighten up the restrictions by definition not drop the whole program all together. It's not abusing the system when the requirements are very low. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdown Report post Posted January 21 I vote to move it Champ and tighten up those requirements rather then try and manage two of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trphyhntr Report post Posted January 21 1 hour ago, cactusjack said: Sad, if nobody is interested in stopping theft and fraud. Who are we to tell someone they’re not disabled? For all we know half the guys who have “legitimate” claims to crossbow permits are just soft and someone else could tough out their injuries. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cactusjack Report post Posted January 21 Prime example of the problem. Complains about fraud, but doesn't want to do more than complain and make allegations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
