creed Report post Posted January 29, 2021 Been sick with Covid and left a ground blind up on 603 in the Belmonts. Went out today to pick it up and some sob needed it worse than I did. There are trail cameras on the drinker that would have been able to see who got it. Anyone here has a camera there and sees someone other than a guy in a grey dodge taking down a ground blind I would sure like to see who it is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edge Report post Posted January 29, 2021 That's where I wanted to spend my last week hunting but life got in the way. Hope you find the bastards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdown Report post Posted January 29, 2021 Not starting an argument and total BS and I sympathize with you, but am curious what the law actually is. From my understanding, anything left overnight or unmanned on public land is considered abandon and can be taken? Can it legally be taken by anyone or only by a fed employee? Sorry, not familiar with the Belmonts, assuming nat forrest or trust land. Again total crap and I'd be upset too but I'm assuming no real legal recourse given this, from what I understand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creed Report post Posted January 29, 2021 It's BLM. I don't know and don't care what the law is. I couldn't prove ownership. It's no big deal to remove a tag or mark over my name. I didn't plan on leaving it out there. I got sick enough the last day I hunted it I didn't think I would make it home from hunting. My boss offered to pick it up but I told him I would take care of it. Should have let him. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZLance Report post Posted January 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, jdown said: Not starting an argument and total BS and I sympathize with you, but am curious what the law actually is. From my understanding, anything left overnight or unmanned on public land is considered abandon and can be taken? Can it legally be taken by anyone or only by a fed employee? Sorry, not familiar with the Belmonts, assuming nat forrest or trust land. Again total crap and I'd be upset too but I'm assuming no real legal recourse given this, from what I understand. this go for vehicles too? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdown Report post Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, AZLance said: this go for vehicles too? I would assume anything titled would have an ownership record. And again, just curious if anyone knows the actual law is. I just know what I've been told. Didn't mean to hijack this thread by any means, just piqued my interest when I read it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed67 Report post Posted January 29, 2021 Problem is the myth of seizing property after being left in the field takes on a life of its own and thieves use it as rationalization and justification to steal someone else’s property. Individuals are not empowered to take other people’s property. There is no way this is law and even if it was, the only agency that could be out there seizing property would be the county sheriffs. I’ve never seen a sheriff or any law enforcement officers with someone’s campsite, blind or cameras in the bed of their truck. They would have to leave a notice documenting what was taken if they did Thieves are out there stealing with no legal justification. Nothing else to say about it. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creed Report post Posted January 29, 2021 Another possibility is the wind out of this last storm uprooted it and blew it away. I looked the area over but didn't see it. If someone picked up a blind blown out into the desert that is completely different than breaking it down and putting it in the back of their truck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ForkHorn Report post Posted January 29, 2021 How do you know it's abandoned when you take it? For reference - Forest Service law is 72 hours. Not overnight. And I know this isn't forest service land but in the case of forest service land you'd have to sit on a piece of "abandoned" property for 72 hours straight to be able to even prove it was abandoned. The owner could visit it at any time and the clock would restart. Were you there at 2:01 AM when the owner may have been? Better re start the clock then. All of these people that misquote abandoned property laws are the worst. I apologize if it seems like this is all directed at you. Just addressing the problem as a whole but a lot of people seem to have this mindset.. and it's very common to see people "justify" stealing on the internet by saying it's abandoned property when they don't even know what that means. If I leave my tent up for 3 nights would you consider taking it? What the heck is wrong with people. If it's not yours don't take it 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdown Report post Posted January 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, ForkHorn said: How do you know it's abandoned when you take it? For reference - Forest Service law is 72 hours. Not overnight. And I know this isn't forest service land but in the case of forest service land you'd have to sit on a piece of "abandoned" property for 72 hours straight to be able to even prove it was abandoned. The owner could visit it at any time and the clock would restart. Were you there at 2:01 AM when the owner may have been? Better re start the clock then. All of these people that misquote abandoned property laws are the worst. I apologize if it seems like this is all directed at you. Just addressing the problem as a whole but a lot of people seem to have this mindset.. and it's very common to see people "justify" stealing on the internet by saying it's abandoned property when they don't even know what that means. If I leave my tent up for 3 nights would you consider taking it? What the heck is wrong with people. If it's not yours don't take it Totally agree and I'm not trying to justify anything so no offense taken, I seriously wanted to know what the rule or law literally was and if it really existed or just urban legend. Thiefs are thiefs and the law really doesn't matter to the shat heads either way, but again just curious what the actual law was. I've heard over night, I've heard 24 hours and now that you say that, I have heard 72 hours. I appreciate it and OP sorry some azzwipe took your blind. I've lost a camera or two, had my trailer broken in one either day 1 or day 2 (we were back day 3) and took about 3K worth of stuff, but have not had a blind stolen yet, but generally don't leave them on water so I guess just been lucky. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Delw Report post Posted January 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, ForkHorn said: If I leave my tent up for 3 nights would you consider taking it? It depends, What kinda Tent and what comes with it, ie poles stove floor 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jasper17 Report post Posted January 30, 2021 Maybe whoever took it got Covid Karma Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatfishKev Report post Posted January 30, 2021 After the winds we had blowing away is a real possiblity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roosevelt Mark Report post Posted January 30, 2021 Why did you leave it before you were sick? Try to own the spot and keep other people from hunting it? My blind is here it's my spot type of deal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TOBY Report post Posted January 30, 2021 Read more. Op is a good guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
