Big or Bust Report post Posted June 2, 2018 $25K for a pool? Add 10% annually for chemicals, maintenance, insurance, etc. let alone the chlorine/unknown chemical bath to bathe in to keep the green goop from magically appearing overnight... Get a kiddy pool for a test drive... I'd rather run a daycare..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingzero Report post Posted June 2, 2018 Tell me the pros and cons of pavers vs pool deck?They look better. Can easily be removed and replaced if stained, broken or need to dig down and fix a leak. Don't have to resurface like you would with acrylic lace coatings. Cheaper than the acrylic lace quotes I got. Maintenance is easy. You just need a good test kit and be willing to test regularly. There's more to it than just chlorine. PH, total alkalinity, calcium hardness and cyanuric acid all need to be monitored. I encourage anyone with a pool to read this.... https://www.troublefreepool.com/content/139-recommended-pool-chemicals This calculator is gold. You can also download the pool math app. https://www.troublefreepool.com/calc.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Curtis Reed Report post Posted June 2, 2018 I made that mistake once +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redman Report post Posted June 2, 2018 $25K for a pool? Add 10% annually for chemicals, maintenance, insurance, etc. let alone the chlorine/unknown chemical bath to bathe in to keep the green goop from magically appearing overnight... Get a kiddy pool for a test drive... I'd rather run a daycare..... it costs on average $200 -$300 a year for pool chemicals- your figure of 10% of $25K ($2500) is more than I spend in 5 years. sure after 8-10 years, it will need replastered / pebble tec and new tile ($4000). but still this is way less than 10% I have had a pool for over 20 years at 4 different homes. My older home with an old pool was much harder to keep up because the equipment and plaster were old and the water balance was a battle . For this older pool once we replastered and added new equipment it was easy. Sand filter, salt pool, with chorine - simple and easy. My last house I might of spent 1 hour a week in the summer sweeping and skimming. In the winter I would go weeks without doing a thing. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redman Report post Posted June 2, 2018 I am actively building a pool now as a homeowner builder. I have always had a pool in all my houses and enjoy being outside, BBQ and swimming, playing basketball with my kids and watching the dogs swim. Its actually a very simple process if you are willing to work with contractors, I have had a great experience thus far (all my other pools came with the house). Only thingI have left to do is the deck, tile and plaster. If you want some info hit me up, I have all the contractors names and advice to share, the permit is the longest phase. My complete build should be around $25K (easily a $35K+ pool from a pool builder). Once you get your design down (engineering) and you have your permit, it moves fast, each process below is separate and you call and deal with each contractor. The process is: Pool paint out on the ground. dig pool Plumbing Steel Electric INSPECTION PRE-GUNITE (SHOTCRETE) Shotcrete Water feature (if you want one) Deck Tile Barrier Final inspection Plaster Fill and start up. +1 I built a pool last year and couldn't be happier. It turned out bigger than I anticipated (18,500 gallons) but im glad it did. My boys love it and have been swimming since February. Like said above, don't go through a pool builder....everything has a huge mark up. I did mine myself and came in just under $27,000. Give me a shout if you have any questions or need references. nicely done! we are going we salt finish, colored concrete for our decking. I have had Kool Decks in the past and they still get hot and chip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CatfishKev Report post Posted June 2, 2018 That paver job looks great! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1denogean Report post Posted June 2, 2018 for 25 thou I can build quite a few good long range rifles and spend the 100 dollars a month you would spend in maintenance on loads. what ever happened to water balloon fights? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Green Bullet Report post Posted June 3, 2018 I’ve always had a pool and always will. Nowadays the pumps are 80% more efficient so the electrical cost issue has mostly been addressed. For my new home I’ll subcon it out and save half the money. My kids love it and it’s a good reason to get them outside and away from devices when chilling at home 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deserttacoma84 Report post Posted June 3, 2018 Anyone here replaster pools??? I am in need! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flatlander Report post Posted June 3, 2018 Pavers are hotter than heck. No one does real kooldec anymore. All decks now are acrylic and painted. Not very cool. If I were building one I would do travertine. It is the coolest option. Wouldnt travertine be slicker than greased snot when it gets wet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camofreak Report post Posted June 3, 2018 Travertine looks good and feels cool, seal it with a non-slip type of sealant and itll be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rossislider Report post Posted June 3, 2018 In my 20s I put myself through ASU by working as the east valley sales and design manager for White Water Pools and Spas (no longer in business) and helped out as construction supervisor when needed. I could have built my own pool for a fraction of the cost, as most of my subs and suppliers offered to give me equipment and most everything I needed just to push thier products. Despite that, I have never had a pool in my backyard. With all that experience and knowledge, came the knowledge of the costs, maintance, upkeep, etc. of pools and have never wanted to stradle myself with it. It is like a kid or high maintance pet. It needs constant attention and $$$. That said, my parents, brother, sister, neighbors, and friends have pools and have given us an open invite to use them any time we want. That is the best pool "you" could ever have. Don't get me wrong, it is very nice to have one, especially if you have kids. But to me, it just isn't worth the headache. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jnj13 Report post Posted June 3, 2018 Seems the major complaint is cost. There is a cost but I think the quality of living out weighs that cost. We built new construction 13 years ago and did a pool. My kids have had that pool their whole life. Our house was where they brought the youth group, sport teams, neighborhood kids to play. I spend about $100 a year on chemicals. Put a new $1000 pump on a few years back. Paid a tile guy $250 to clean the tiles once. Other than that - nothing. Do the chemistry right the first time, stay on it, and your water will be fine. It’s just too hot in AZ to not have a pool. I’d avoid a budget build, expect to spend some money and only recoup 25% of that in resell value but enjoy the major upgrade in quality of life. Just my $0.02 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deserttacoma84 Report post Posted June 3, 2018 Gotta love man baths in the summer! LOL 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daryl_s Report post Posted June 4, 2018 I think it comes down to personal preferences and wants. I have 5 kids ranging in age from 2 to 14 and they are very active and love to be outside and love to go to the pool. I understand there will be costs to maintain, and that's something I'm totally fine with. It's not for everybody, but we will definitely be getting a pool soon. I'm not sure why people feel the need to bash those that want a pool. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
