Champ and Crossbow Permit Proposed Changes

[cactusjack]

I think when you voluntarily give your information out, HIPPA is kinda off the table.

[catclaw]

Let's go to spears using stone tips only. 

[ctafoya]

There is a lot of crap I can't do anymore due to various ailments. It is what it is. Get over it. 

[cactusjack]

What has surprised me the most through this entire process is the lack of empathy and support for fellow hunters, specificly ones that are trying to have as normal of a life as possible while dealing with medical issues.  

Is it jealousy? Fear? Pure protectionism? Ignorance? 

It must be driven by scarcity and FOMO. 

I started writing my story but decided it doesn't matter, people's opinions are set.

I wish you all years of health but if you do have an unfortunate change of medical situation, I hope you are able to continue participating in something you love even if it has to be modified to an extent.  

 

 

[PRDATR]

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[thegunsmith2506]

1 hour ago, cactusjack said:

What has surprised me the most through this entire process is the lack of empathy and support for fellow hunters, specificly ones that are trying to have as normal of a life as possible while dealing with medical issues.  

Is it jealousy? Fear? Pure protectionism? Ignorance? 

It must be driven by scarcity and FOMO. 

I started writing my story but decided it doesn't matter, people's opinions are set.

I wish you all years of health but if you do have an unfortunate change of medical situation, I hope you are able to continue participating in something you love even if it has to be modified to an extent.  

 

 

I think what it all comes down to is most guys understand life isn't fair. Not everyone can do the same things and that's just the way it is. It sucks having health issues that keep you from doing things you enjoy but that is life. 

[HuntHarder]

1 hour ago, cactusjack said:

What has surprised me the most through this entire process is the lack of empathy and support for fellow hunters, specificly ones that are trying to have as normal of a life as possible while dealing with medical issues.  

Is it jealousy? Fear? Pure protectionism? Ignorance? 

It must be driven by scarcity and FOMO. 

I started writing my story but decided it doesn't matter, people's opinions are set.

I wish you all years of health but if you do have an unfortunate change of medical situation, I hope you are able to continue participating in something you love even if it has to be modified to an extent.  

 

 

Not a lack of empathy at all from my view point.  Life is 100% not fair.  I see archery hunting as a specialized form of hunting.  If you are still hunting, but not able to bowhunt, be grateful.  I've said it before, when i no longer can bowhunt, I will hang up my bow and gun hunt until I can't.  Some areas I hunt require hiking in multiple miles before you can legally hunt.  Should there be a road installed for the guys that can't make that same hike, due to a disability, to give them the same access? My answer is no, they still have the ability to hunt, just not this particular honey hole.   As you have mentioned, I, nor anyone else, is going to change your mind and you aren't going to change my mind.  

[cactusjack]

52 minutes ago, thegunsmith2506 said:

I think what it all comes down to is most guys understand life isn't fair. Not everyone can do the same things and that's just the way it is. It sucks having health issues that keep you from doing things you enjoy but that is life. 

I understand that life isn't fair, never claimed that it was.  Myself and a bunch of other disabled vets get that 100%. We get a hardy "Thank you for your service" on Nov 11th, but then we get told Life isn't fair when it comes to trying to live a somewhat normal life.  

[cactusjack]

The CHAMP permit isn't going away.  Neither is the Crossbow permit.  You are going to have to deal with that. The only things they are deciding are--

What conditions qualify. 

Who can sign off.

What can be used on the crossbow. 

 

[Flatlander]

1 hour ago, thegunsmith2506 said:

I think what it all comes down to is most guys understand life isn't fair. Not everyone can do the same things and that's just the way it is. It sucks having health issues that keep you from doing things you enjoy but that is life. 

What it all comes down to is a bunch of guys who hunt with compound bows trying to preserve their opportunity at the expense of others.

It’s just self preservation and jealousy. 

[knothead]

If you can hunt with a crossbow then you can hunt with a gun. I have yet to see anywhere in the proposal where it forbids anyone from hunting. The argument of a few on here just doesn't hold sand. Pick up a gun and go hunt.  Lastly, everyone's minds are already made up on the issue.  I suggest everyone with an opinion one way or another to write G&F or show up and speak at meeting.  

[trphyhntr]

 

1 hour ago, Flatlander said:

What it all comes down to is a bunch of guys who hunt with compound bows trying to preserve their opportunity at the expense of others.

It’s just self preservation and jealousy. 

 

 

[trphyhntr]

Months of jack posting this has converted nobody on either side. 

[trphyhntr]

1 hour ago, cactusjack said:

I understand that life isn't fair, never claimed that it was.  Myself and a bunch of other disabled vets get that 100%. We get a hardy "Thank you for your service" on Nov 11th, but then we get told Life isn't fair when it comes to trying to live a somewhat normal life.  

 Laying it on a little thick aren’t you? 

[creed]

Let it go.  This was likely decided long ago. 

To you "deal with it, life ain't fair" guys, your day's coming should you live so long. Then it's your turn to deal with it.