Explorer Report post Posted March 10, 2015 I believe they can only block road access, we can heli drop in there and hunt the trust as long as we don't cross their land. people have done this on the ORO and still been forced to leave. Ranchers have more pull than the common man in Yavapai county. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swivelhead Report post Posted March 10, 2015 Assuming the charges have merit, I find it disturbing that having dominion over 600K acres is not enough. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
buglethemin Report post Posted March 10, 2015 What a piece of garbage this guy is. I hope he looses all his hunting and guiding privileges for life time. Obviously the 5 year band he was slapped with in 2003 didn't work. Maybe this time jail. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
208muley Report post Posted March 10, 2015 I dont have a dog in this but he is not guilty as of now. See how this plays out and if he is found guilty then he should get the max penalty as this would be strike two. But he is innocent till PROVEN guilty. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flatlander Report post Posted March 10, 2015 Get the story first hand from a reliable source. He's guilty as sin. I hope they throw the book at him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MULEPACKHUNTER Report post Posted March 10, 2015 I sent a letter to magahn ranches about access to pig hunt in 20b and never got a reply. I offered to ride fence, do ranch work, take pics of ranch conditions, water hole conditions, and offered a log of sausage if I was successful. No reply 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MULEPACKHUNTER Report post Posted March 10, 2015 The original game fish email is under game and fish working hard and its in antelope forum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4Falls Report post Posted March 10, 2015 Way off topic but state land is NOT the same as public land. And most if not all of the ORO is private to my knowledge. Not that that has any bearing on this incident. Im sure they will plead this way down and get wrist slapped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertBull Report post Posted March 10, 2015 corner jumping is illegal last time I checked but there have been some lawsuits that might have reversed that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Couesnut Report post Posted March 10, 2015 I'll say it again...."Ride with an Outlaw... Die with an Outlaw" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Havasuhunter Report post Posted March 10, 2015 Too bad people like this will never go to "real" prison because it's what they deserve. To steal from other legal hunters in the name of money is as far from what is the "right" way to treat a public resource as you can get. If natural movements or migration puts the game on their property, that's one thing. Anything else is BS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naturebob Report post Posted March 11, 2015 Hang em all.............BOB! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
couesmagnet Report post Posted March 11, 2015 I think there's been a huge and very rash rush to judgement from most on here. Seeing that none of us were probably there when it happened it's surprising to see such a lynch mob mentality so quickly. What if there's a chance that they were really just herding cattle and chose the worst time to do it. Even witnesses could have ulterior motives and it's been know that even direct witnesses of an event can be off on their own testimony of what really happened cause Of their own human error alone. Heck look at all the Bigfoot sightings still and they don't exist!!! Factors such as distance can obscure true positioning of helicopters in relation to fence lines or antelope for that matter. I have lots of respect for the arizona game and fish overall but even they make big mistakes themselves sometimes, everyone makes mistakes, everyone!!! No one has even heard the other side of the story but yet stand ready to tar and feather a guy without his due process. I don't know chad and have met him only twice, but after hearing the story from the other side there's an awful lot of grey area here and sounds like quite a misunderstanding from all sides. This event has nothing to do with a hunting incident and at worst involves possible animal harassment indirectly. Has anyone ever drove the their truck down a road and had antelope run off from seeing the truck?? That could also be spun into hunter harassment. Just saying give the guy his due process. Witch hunts were for the old days. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naturebob Report post Posted March 11, 2015 Couesmagnet, You sound like an attorney by chance. Or a friend of a friend of the offended. That being said You do make sense and what Your saying is a possibility. But My guess is people know his reputation.............BOB! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstcoueswas110 Report post Posted March 11, 2015 I think there's been a huge and very rash rush to judgement from most on here. Seeing that none of us were probably there when it happened it's surprising to see such a lynch mob mentality so quickly. What if there's a chance that they were really just herding cattle and chose the worst time to do it. Even witnesses could have ulterior motives and it's been know that even direct witnesses of an event can be off on their own testimony of what really happened cause Of their own human error alone. Heck look at all the Bigfoot sightings still and they don't exist!!! Factors such as distance can obscure true positioning of helicopters in relation to fence lines or antelope for that matter. I have lots of respect for the arizona game and fish overall but even they make big mistakes themselves sometimes, everyone makes mistakes, everyone!!! No one has even heard the other side of the story but yet stand ready to tar and feather a guy without his due process. I don't know chad and have met him only twice, but after hearing the story from the other side there's an awful lot of grey area here and sounds like quite a misunderstanding from all sides. This event has nothing to do with a hunting incident and at worst involves possible animal harassment indirectly. Has anyone ever drove the their truck down a road and had antelope run off from seeing the truck?? That could also be spun into hunter harassment. Just saying give the guy his due process. Witch hunts were for the old days. call the whambulance cry baby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites