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I could be wrong but if memory serves me correctly based on the game and fish presentations, archery success was around 11%-13% and hunters hunting with crossbows during OTC archery hunts was around 33%. This was part of the argument made for removing crossbows from all the archery hunts. As more archery units go to draw it just forces archers to move to fewer remaining OTC hunts. Thus, you will see more units go to draw. Some units are more conducive to road hunters. I predict you will see 20A go to draw in a year or two as well. I'll admit, once G&F required mandatory reporting then started publishing the actual numbers of deer taken during OTC hunts, I was very surprised. Most the mule deer units get hammered. Call me whatever you want but I have always believed there should be no OTC opportunities for NR's. AZ just doesn't have the numbers of animals to allow this. Human population in this state is growing at 1 million every 8-9 years yet our animal populations are decreasing or staying same. Then throw in uncontrolled wolf numbers, feral horses/burros, drought and loss of habitat. Somethings got to give.

really? Is it not alarming to you how many deer get killed in the first weekend in those 2 units? Amazing how, once mandatory reporting is required, we now have at least some what of an idea of how many deer truly die by archery. Now if we could only get the rest of the methods of take to be mandatory reporting.

SPF

OpticNerd: She will have a fantastic hunt with that hunt! very few tags and rut action! I will keep you informed on what we see if you would like? if so shoot me your number or your cousin either way we like to help where we can.

Thank you. I’ll look into it. I don’t mind a lot of DIY projects but I hate attics, insulation and electrical so I avoid those things. lol.

https://azgfd-portal-wordpress-pantheon.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/27174631/AZ-Big-Game-Hunt-Recommendations-and-Notes-Fall-2025-Spring-2026-_-March-272025.pdf Looks like Unit 1 and 27 will be back to a archery deer draw

August otc is my version of Christmas. I have spent more time hunting unit 1 than most. I don't think harvest is the only factor g&f is considering. The amount of hunters over the last few years since they instituted harvest objectives is absolutely insane and I am sure only increase. Secondly, g&f needs to institute mandatory reporting for draw tags as well to get a more accurate version of harvest. It is with mixed emotions and some sadness that I support the draw for these units.

They could reduce that number by simply closing the unit 48 hours after the threshold is met instead of the next Wednesday.

Got the photos to upload.

Depends on condition, additional equipment on the boat, titled trailer, untitled trailer, condition of trailer and tires, no trailer, age, and how badly someone needs the money. If you the buyer is happy and the seller is happy, it's a good deal.

That's different. Interesting........

Thanks for the heads up. Just picked up some 14s and it looks like the outdoorsman is on back order. I’ll try this one.

As much as they can, market is usually high this time of year for a few months. Boat shops are running 4 plus weeks out right now for service and repairs.

@eddielasvegas awesome! They do a great job. My brother’s name is Rob. He is the owner. They are very competitively priced as well.

I think that I would like to sell mine by the inch. Maybe $5-$10 an inch ?…..they are tough to find this size.

You can text at 602-999-9576 I will be around tomorrow morning

That’s terrible for the unit , good for 37a though

Thanks for this @matt and good timing on this thread, I need to get this done so I'll be calling your bro @ScottE Eddie

AZ Insulation and HVAC Solutions LLC is my brother. He does a great job at super affordable prices. He also is on SRP’s rebate program so SRP will pay for a good chunk of the project if you are with SRP. Give them a call 👍 (480) 662-2874

HyNoon mentioned on my post to take a screen shot of the photo and try again. I had the same issue, the screen shot dropped the file size in half and accepted it. Hope this helps.

It worked, I appreciate the help sir!

Harlows in Tucson did mine and did a phenomenal job. 165 pound southern AZ tom...

2 years really came fast. DAN

Great people to boot....