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Bahahahaha! And they should be banned as well from muzzleloader hunts

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Ban it all dude. Catch me at the next sierra club meeting

The argument is, it isn’t archery. Permit or not

I always get hated on because it’s kinda sister but I love my electric smoker. Only con is only gets to 275

I’m in the group that can’t shoot archery gear any more. The turds that cheated the system are to blame. Life goes on. Clouds rolling in now might go find some velvet Coues.

Let it go. This was likely decided long ago. To you "deal with it, life ain't fair" guys, your day's coming should you live so long. Then it's your turn to deal with it.

What it all comes down to is a bunch of guys who hunt with compound bows trying to preserve their opportunity at the expense of others. It’s just self preservation and jealousy.

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I need this shotgun in my life. I don’t know why but I do!

Self preservation. Take away someone else’s opportunity to save mine.

Got you all set

I'm curious as to why the concern over a crossbow hunter that has a valid permit. The arguments I have heard is it's going to keep units open longer and eliminate cheaters. That and avoiding a draw. With a limited resource and increasing pressure anyone thinking a draw isn't coming has their head in the sand. And probably sooner rather than later.

I've had my Yoder for 14 years and is still going strong. I don't like using my in-laws Traeger when I am at there house. Looking online Scheels in Chandler has the YS640 in stock, don't even have to pay for shipping.

I am all for making it harder to get a cross bow permit. This has been taken advantage of for way too long. It doesn't seem like the changes will have any affect on the people who are disabled and actually need one.

Good question. Probably not too many but I don’t know. I will say that just 1 deer or elk taken by someone who cheated the system so they could use a crossbow during an archery hunt is 1 too many.

And there are guys on here who do not hunt with crossbows who see this effort as an uneducated and unnecessary solution to a problem that is poorly defined and even more poorly understood, even if it does not directly impact them. Always crazy to me when a bunch of self-identified “conservatives” start chomping at the bit for a bunch of extra government regulation from people who neither understand what they are talking about nor have to live with the consequences. 🤯

If you can hunt with a crossbow then you can hunt with a gun. I have yet to see anywhere in the proposal where it forbids anyone from hunting. The argument of a few on here just doesn't hold sand. Pick up a gun and go hunt. Lastly, everyone's minds are already made up on the issue. I suggest everyone with an opinion one way or another to write G&F or show up and speak at meeting.

I understand that life isn't fair, never claimed that it was. Myself and a bunch of other disabled vets get that 100%. We get a hardy "Thank you for your service" on Nov 11th, but then we get told Life isn't fair when it comes to trying to live a somewhat normal life.

Not a lack of empathy at all from my view point. Life is 100% not fair. I see archery hunting as a specialized form of hunting. If you are still hunting, but not able to bowhunt, be grateful. I've said it before, when i no longer can bowhunt, I will hang up my bow and gun hunt until I can't. Some areas I hunt require hiking in multiple miles before you can legally hunt. Should there be a road installed for the guys that can't make that same hike, due to a disability, to give them the same access? My answer is no, they still have the ability to hunt, just not this particular honey hole. As you have mentioned, I, nor anyone else, is going to change your mind and you aren't going to change my mind.

What has surprised me the most through this entire process is the lack of empathy and support for fellow hunters, specificly ones that are trying to have as normal of a life as possible while dealing with medical issues. Is it jealousy? Fear? Pure protectionism? Ignorance? It must be driven by scarcity and FOMO. I started writing my story but decided it doesn't matter, people's opinions are set. I wish you all years of health but if you do have an unfortunate change of medical situation, I hope you are able to continue participating in something you love even if it has to be modified to an extent.

There is a lot of crap I can't do anymore due to various ailments. It is what it is. Get over it.

Thats the thing that's funny about this, no evidence that this occurred on any large scale. Not 1 citation, warning or documented case was presented. Only anecdotal stories. OTC deer hunts being moved to the quota system has pushed people into looking for a scapegoat. OTC deer tags are doomed. Deal with it

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11 year old thread.