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My guy is pretty big and has some vertigo, so he is pretty easy to tip; but he is old so I avoid it think he may get hurt. I just stick to cows.

Couesdeerhntr, I agree with your thoughts. It's crazy how degraded the content has gotten and how much disrespect for people's opinions ones feel at liberty to express. I by no means am implying that there are not good, salt of the earth folks on here, but what happened to being interested enough in someone's expressions that we asked adult, respectful questions when we disagree or don't understand. I tell my son that this forum is like hunting camp with the guys. We love each other but also rag the heck out of each other every chance we get. Nothing personal, even though it appears to be. That reasoning, wildly imagined, is why I keep coming back and sharing our memories moments in the field. Good luck in the draw!!! Mark

Well see thats where your wrong. its wasnt Taken out the window of a pick-up truck with a 22lr at night.. I dont think the deer would have fit through the window of a pick-up truck.

Maybe he went to dig up his old Lit professor and have a one on one conversation with her, or he could be writing a non fiction book on Crappie trolling with Thrphyhntr ;)

I used to always drop them off at the last minute, so mine would be the first out. I got ram the first time, so I had to keep doing it

I would drive to the Mesa office and skip school. I was always paranoid to drop them into the drum. I was afraid I was gonna screw it up for everyone I was delivering for some how. It was definitely more exciting doing that and the phone call.

No tip for you!

All this and nobody asked if g&f got hacked and all our info is out there.. lots of vague answers. I feel like someone getting sniffed by Joe.

I've never tipped

Who thinks Fatlander will post again? I was surprised that he was getting roasted and the thread didn’t get locked. He is like a god on here. Someone please start talking about the trail cam ban. I miss SirRoyals craziness.

I've followed this forum every year to check in on the draw but man this thread has gone sideways! Not sure what protocol is but maybe there should there be a separate thread about the actual draw updates vs ethics, bonus points, and whatnot? My personal gripe is that azgfd isn't using any of their social media platforms to give updates on WTH is going on and instead leaving dedicated hunters to guess what is going on and therefore devolve into hating on each other. Just sayin... Sincerely hope you all draw tags.

Fair enough but...since you cannot control the bitching on this forum, aren't you also bitching about something you have no control over, and therefore lame? 🤔😂

You can question my motives or morality all you want, I’ll sleep fine. There are many choices others make that I would not, no big deal, they have that right. You’ve been around here long enough to know that we apply for and hunt a lot of non “primo” tags. So to say that’s my only concern is comical. I do want my children to experience hunting as much as possible. I will do my part to make sure they get the opportunities afforded to them by the laws and rules that are in place. I would support deleting bonus points to simplify the system and reduce the games that are played to gain an advantage. It’s interesting to see how many people are opposed to rules governing trail cameras because of “government” interference and then how many support further regulation of the permitting process. I also think it is bad for the future of hunting to create barriers to entry. Someone who just learned about hunting late in life should have the same opportunities afforded to the rest of us. Eventually, hunters will have to hand together or we will slowly lose these opportunities. If new hunters don’t see opportunities out there, they won’t care what happens when an apex predator needs to be deregulated or land needs to be conserved. Just my opinion. I won’t venture a guess as to what the motives were when AZGFD allowed parents/grandparents to sign over tags, I wasn’t there when that happened. But it seems unlikely that they couldn’t have seen the possibility of a non hunting grandparent to apply. Regardless, I dont have to guess, they wrote the rule and we comply with it. After all this I will sign off. This argument is going nowhere. But I must say it’s a bit odd that you would be so concerned about something that has so little impact on the overall draw process. It seems the much larger issue are the number of point mule applicants being added to the system for averaging party apps. This is much more prevalent and impacts many times more potential applicants than grandmas giving a tag to a kid.

I love how delayed card hits turns everyone crazy.

Wow, I have all of mine between 1.5-2.5 oz. I don't touch the trigger until I mean it.

If your feelers are hurt because I apply my Mom for a tag with the intention of transferring it to one of my sons, too dang bad, grow up. Wish I was at my computer, I’d light this thread on 🔥

Didnt you draw last year and turn the tag in? Quit Bitching! 😂

But Utah takes 3 months to turn around the Elk and Deer draw results Application must be in by March 4th Results published May 31st

You guys all know the drop in deer population is directly related to the boom of the 6.5 CM.

I've never tipped

Just like Lark. Them old folks have thinner skin than one mite expect.

Nice! G&F web site probably crashed due to everyone logging in to check! 🤣

Didn't you mean to say "great gun. Beautiful seller! ? The ammo hoard

Sounds like I should take my hybrids, h1k, F215gmm, and 9mm ammo to bed with me every night.

All y'all mofos are arguing the wrong points. A strait point system (the kid with zero points draws a sheep tag) or a squared point system ( the geriatric dude who gets preference because he has been putting in since the civil war) is irrelevant if we have a bonus point surplus, which we have since more bps are created every year than are spent. There are only two solutions to that problem. 1. Pool bps. Allow people to pool all species bps and use them on any species they want. In a silent auction style people could use any of their bps towards any hunt. This would more than likely lead to over bp use and create a bp deficit. ( the out of state jo who has applied for elk, bighorn, deer and antelope for 20 years would burn all his points for an almost guaranteed chance at 1 of those tags.) I have suggested this before and it was like talking to the window lickers who ride the short bus. 2. Allow use of bps as currency. Allow bps to be used and spent on things other than draw odds. For example, something like 10 bps and your deer bag limit for deer goes up to 2. Or 20 bps to purchase a lifetime hunt/fish combo liscense. One way or another we need to get into a bp deficit or these problems will increase regardless if we square our points or not.